Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT
Put it this way would any astronaut or anyone else for that matter who was privy to any witnessed or information that was regarded as evidence to off
world intelligences on the moon or in orbit ever come forward??.No was my answer to that question, too much to loose and why is that regarded by you
as non compatible or zilch ?why is that possibility regarded by you as NOT POSSIBLE??
Aside from all the hundreds of people directly involved, there's this: Ed Mitchell and Gordon Cooper were right there on the astronaut team involved
in moon landing training and operations. There's no way that THEY would have spent the next few decades of their lives lying about it. I've always
believed they have been utterly truthful in recounting their memories, the closer to the events the better although time and aging did later have
Aren't you basically arguing that the utter ABSENCE of any evidence for your imagined scenario could be considered PROOF it happened because the
coverup was so effective?
But how about these claimed radio intercepts? What evidence is there that they were anything but the imaginations -- surely you can relate to that
concept -- of writers such as Binder and Pepper?
Don't lecture me about abrasiveness. You're the one prmoting the idea that some very brave and decent human beings -- some of whom I've known for
decades -- are the greatest falsifiers and misleaders in human history -- all to please your own ego, perhaps. They aren't here to debunk the smears,
so I will.
Show me were i was promoting the idea dea that some very brave and decent human beings are the greatest falsifiers and misleaders in human history
??You have again turned my words around to make look like i am disrespecting them,that is utter nonsense and you should be ashamed you have went down
that avenue and deliberately accused me of that, for someone who is academical that is a real shame.You seem to think that abrasiveness is a
justified and fair manner in which to debate to treat someone on a public forum because they differ in opinion, i take it the rules of "decorum and
manners" in the UFO section ect are set aside for you???
Again for a third time in explaining my point right from my OP that was "IF" something was encountered on the moon or in orbit would it have been
kept silent regardless of any national security briefing to ALL concerned with the APOLLO programmes.Now tell me what it is that you have for the
third time had difficulty in forming any kind of differentiation on my points below that i clearly said in my OP, which was , imagination is NOT
accusing or disrespecting anyone or promoting evidence of anything ,it is in fact a birth right we all are entitled to is it not, no disrespect was
ever intended towards any Apollo astronaut , in fact they have my sympathy if they did encounter anything and having to remain silent for the rest
of their lives due to the magnitude of it all.
Lets say something did happen on the moon or in orbit, lets imagine that you and me decided that under no circumstances would we EVER divulge any
thing to anyone including very close family and friends out of fear of breaking any security oaths or if none taken then the risk of the back lash and
probable character assassinations manipulated the the media ect. In fact the backlashes of going public about anything of this nature is self severing
in it creates its own defensive agendas in that the weight of the media and those PAB who have at their disposal so much weight and power when it
comes destroying some ones credibility , that is the the power of character assassination , one only has to look at the attempts on Dr James E
MacDonald who exposed the "inadequate scientific methods" employed in the official investigation's into the UFO situation in regard to the data he
look at from the files of project blue book .also Hyneks "blue books unknowns" are also worth noting on who easily situations can be made to look as
nothing out of the ordinary.
1;My OP dealt with MY IMAGINATION as a METAPHOR for a possible situation where something was encountered and all concerned stayed silent due to
national security laws or oaths they took.That is in NO way accusing anyone of anything in a dis-respectable way ,in fact i would not have blamed
anyone for staying silent "IF" something was encountered or seen.
2; That no matter if there was an oath taking or not silence still would have prevailed because of the extreme nature of the events that unfolded ,
would you have stayed silent regardless of you took an oath or not,would you have taken the risk that for speaking out your life would possibly have
been one of ridicule, character assassination and misery.
I have no agenda of ego here, i merely was pointing out possibilities that people can and have remained silent to close friends and family for their
protection and of those they love and respect., that was the reality of my imagination not the cold , lonely hard place you so abrasively suggested.
Look at the abuse ED and BUZZ have had to face from all those moon hoax believers, of which i am not one, we went to the moon.
15/07/2010 by K-PAX-PROT because: decorum and manners.
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