Originally posted by Sublimecraft
reply to post by JimOberg
James - you and I both know that is near impossible. Why?
Well, first we need to track down "Author Sam Pepper".
Why whack at the branches when it's the trunk you're interested in?
Check out amateur radio listeners private associations to see who was involved in monitoring Apollo transmissions -- it is NOT a trivial task you can
do with a desk shortwave receiver and a wire hanging out the window -- and talk with them about who else they knew who was doing that activity [it
would have been a short list and the folks involved knew each other].
That's very difficult to do today because of so many years passing. That's why it was easier, when I did it, in the 1979-1980 period. My results:
nobody involved knew of anybody else doing it who made any such claims.
The requirement is for the person claiming it happened to provide proof. those who have concluded it did NOT hapen do not bear the burden of poroof to
Besides, those tabloids of that era often used made-up author's pseudonyms for their small stable of regular writers, so the actual identity of the
author may be undiscoverable after all this time.
Secondly, we need Aldrin to take a lie-detector test - he is the key to all of this now that Armstrong is no longer with us. Then he needs to be asked
the same things - hopefully without getting upset (as he appears very touchy on the subject when approached these days)
A polygraph test, on what basis? Your sense of proportion is wa-a-a-a-ay out of whack here. If there were any EVIDENCE that the transmissions even
occurred, sure, maybe there'd be justification. But an anonymous tabloid newspaper third-hand claim? You can't be serious.
You do not need anything further from me to approach Mr Craft and query him about this - what you need is for him to also take a lie detector
test so that any answer he gives (assuming he would) would seemingly put this to bed one way or the other.
You need first to specify exactly WHAT Craft is supposed to have said, to whom, and how we should even believe it. You haven't even done that. With
some reasonably-well-sourced allegation, I have no problem running the story past him for his comment.
My stance on this event is based primarily of Timothy Goods work whom I find highly credible.
Tim's enthusiasm and dramatic flair often far outruns his reliable evidence, I've found. I don't know if there's ever been an unsourced gossip
rumor he was able to resist.
.... when rumours persist for so long that they apparently did see something "other worldly" then there must be an element of "truth" to
it - until such time I am doubtful of the official version of events.
Well, I don't consider the unending stream of eager-believer gullible victims of the same old rumors to be of ANY evidentiary value regarding the
authenticity of the stories, but then I'm old and cynical.
I am not a journalist - looking at your website I suggest you are (or are qualified in that field) - I have not had the opportunity to take a
look at the contents therein but certainly will as it appears you have been down this path already.
As you will discover, I'm not an outside observer and reporter of these events -- I'm a 'rocket scientist' intimately involved in the space
program for decades, and a co-worker and friend of many of the astronauts mentiioned in these stories.
I'm curious, have you ever spoken to Timothy Good about Sam Pepper or the lunar observations Armstrong and Aldrin apparently made? - my
understanding is that he (if indeed Sam is a he) disappeared for self-preservation due to the information on the transcript - am I right in assuming
that or did this Sam not exist in the first place?
Good and I corresponded on these themes in the 1980s, and he advised me he was of the same mind as you have described -- the stories are too good NOT
to believe, unless irrefutably debunked. He didn't feel it was his responsibility to PROVE anything. On that basis, he was quite happy to believe
that contrary testimony from astronauts and space workers was all lies.
On a personal note - I am very glad to have met someone of your calibre and hope we can continue to discuss this and other related topics at
length - please afford me the opportunity to study your website for a few days, but in the meantime, what say you regarding this response?
Ditto back atcha, I'm always interested in learning more about how intelligent, enthusiastic, well-spoken and future-oriented people can come into
this area of folklore/knowledge, and how they can use internet tools to get a sound all-around background in the controversial claims that are so