Secret Millitary Codes in our Road Sign?

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posted on May, 25 2003 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave
The codes do exist.


Then how come military personnel don't know about them? There are quite a few members here who are ex-military or military brats. And there's some here with top secret clearances and who have worked in logistics.

How come they don't know about this?



I have talked to enough reputable and decorated military people who know about them to believe their reports, plus my own investigations checking this out on the highways and interstates. Not all military are privy to this either.


I know quite a few reputable and decorated military personnel including my father (twice winner of the Bronze Star for valor), my son, my brother, my nephews. Several are currently serving military officers.



Your weak reasoning is nullifide for lack of substance and objective study about the subject.


You're assuming quite a bit, aren't you?

You're welcome to come to Dallas and other cities and look at our heliport and airport facilities and military bases and National Guard bases. The National Guard munitions storage is about a mile from where I work, and a large munitions plant is about 1/2 mile north of where I work.

There are no tags leading to these facilities (which were heavily guarded after 9/11 and still have security around them incuding concrete barriers.) There are no tags "indicating directions" to the heliport (a major facility, likewise with security) or any of the local airports including some of the ones that have been used for military purposes.

And of course, there's nothing pointing to DFW airport... but I think everyone knows where that is.

So, in contrast to that one page with a few examples, I can show you (as can others) lots and lots of places where the "sign code" doesn't exist or "points" to something else (like a shopping center.)

Or you can go observe for yourself in other states and locations.




posted on May, 25 2003 @ 02:17 PM
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I really don't think everyone in the military is a willing to tell what they know about tacmar sign codes as some are. Some don't know I am sure. Just because someone in the military says they don't know does'nt mean they are not aware of them and/or their meaning. I have talked to Road Commision manager on the phone about these things and he admitted there was a military connection to them, but later in a personal meeting with him he denied everything he had said before. He had forgotten he had talked to me on the phone about a month before that about the markers.

I also spoke to a sheriff's deputy who is in the national guard. He was refered to me by another officer who said this deputy and him had talked about tacmars before and that they were for emergency military use. When I spoke to deputy he denied it and went back the the other officer and chewed him out for implicating him as one who knows about them.

There are areas up here that do not have markers either yet european picture signs mark several sites plus arrow configurations mark others. The markers are fine tuning as it were. Also they may not have converted the signs there yet where you are located. If you will take some pictures of the signs near the sites you described and post them I would like to see them.

Carrierwave~

[Edited on 26-5-2003 by Carrierwave]



posted on May, 25 2003 @ 09:15 PM
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Well, I did something that should have been done a long time ago: On the way out to my sister-in-law's house, I looked at road signs and I looked at the tags. Here in Texas, between Dallas and Granbury, there's one tag per sign with a few exceptions. Most were on the left hand side of the sign -- about 10% were on the right hand side.

So, for 10 miles (from Granbury to loop 820, heading east) I counted 11 tags on signs on the right hand side of the road. There was none close to the commercial air strip, though there was one close to a stock car race track. There was one that was within a mile of the air museum. It was in the same position and configuration (single sticker, left hand side) as 90% of the stickers along that side of the road.

Of signs that were groupled (junction of multiple highways) the one that had a tag to the left on top, underneath a tag to the right, then one to the left, led to a tiny farm road and a small community in the middle of nowhere.

From loop 820, going east on I 30 to mile marker 29, there were 14 tagged signs near or on the side of the road. 11 of them were placed on the left hand side of the sign at the bottom, three were on the right hand side. The exit to the Naval Air Station (and Carswell AFB) was marked with all sorts of road signs. Only one sign was "tagged" on the back, and it was in the usual lower left hand corner. One tag, indistinguishable in shape (square sign) and size and location from the other signs.

Between Arlington and the east edge of Dallas, I started noting the sign tags that were on the right hand side of the sign. One was near a clump of trees. One was near a photographer's studio. One was near a small liquor store.

No military or FEMA or govenrment facilities are located in that area.

Now... this is completely replicatable by ANYBODY here. Tags may be put up later and signs may be tagged later, but as of the 25th of May, that was the count and position of road sign tags from Granbury to the east edge of Dallas -- along an area where there are turnoffs to close military bases and to some government facilities.



posted on May, 25 2003 @ 09:35 PM
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Like said earlier it could be a contigency plan i could see that as forseeable. But you would have to rely on a select few who know the "code" I could also see this being used years ago but not in this day and age. And in conclusion I dont believe this because this could be an outrages breach of national security if the code would ever be decrypted. Some spy or God forbid a foriegn invasion being directed to our "secret" military bases by our road signs vey very unlikely. And if you believe it is in affect in america u have no real sense secrecy and how the government would hide a clandestine base.



posted on May, 25 2003 @ 09:41 PM
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A few thoughts, just my opinions.

This website looks like typical disinformation. Tell all the conspiracy nut wacko's on this website (including myself) that there is a secret NWO coding. Get us interested in that and it dissuades us from analyzing current events & keeping track of cabal/illuminati movements & meetings.

It is possible that a code exists, but has nothing to do with the NWO. On the other hand, it could have everything to do with the NWO. At this point, does it matter? If so, why? What is the importance of this, relative to everything else that is happening in the world & our country?

The only useful purpose that I can imagine breaking such a "code" might serve is if we were to use those abandoned facilities ourselves- to organize a resistance. (I.E. beat them to it).



posted on May, 25 2003 @ 09:52 PM
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This is the kind of crap that makes anyone who believes there is a conspiracy look stupid.

There are many people here who are prior service and some who are active and those who say there are these secret signs and that they have been trained in the use of them are how many? (Raise your hand if you've sat through the block of instruction called "Back of Sign reading").

There we have an MP tha thas spoken up. What are the duties and responsiblities of the MP? For one thing, he is a glorified grunt and carries much more ammo than the basic load of an infantryman. He secures intersections, is responsible for convoy security and also specializes in urban warfare.
And here is an MP who has not the first clue about what it is your talking.

That is the best proof that this lousy idea of reading the backs of signs has not caught on yet.

Maybe it will, and that will just add more fuel for my belief, which is the governments are to inept at running the governments, they certainly are no threat when it comes to capturing and enslaving the populace!



posted on May, 25 2003 @ 10:23 PM
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Thomas, you make a great point!!

I'm sorry to do this, but all of the following quotes come from the same site that purports this tacmark theory- the link is the first one in this thread.

"NOTE: The directory sign above the photo *center* in WAL*MART has these words: "INFANTS, KIDS, MEN, WOMEN/ CARDS".)"

So here you basically have someone saying that Walmart and Target-type stores will be used to dispense national ID cards, under direction of the Postmaster General. This is once the big bad UN forces take over the United States. They allege that the presently-found directory sign including the word "CARDS" at the photo center is evidence of this theory.

The foundation of their argument is not well-established, is it? I mean, walmart is involved! The plot thickens....

"The "tactical arrow codes" on this WAL*MART department directory sign have a secondary meaning. These codes are targeting the "GARDEN CENTER". If you have ever been to the GARDEN CENTER at WAL*MART you will know it is fitted with iron bars and chain link fencing, locking roll-down overhead doors, and locking exit with a register, scanner, and key-pad swipe/card console. It is our belief that the GARDEN CENTER will be a detention area where "dissidents" will be detained for further processing and then relocation."

So not only is every Walmart-type store across the country involved in this UN conspiracy, but the Garden Center is also one of the key detainment areas for those previously evaluated as "Dissidents".

Then you have "further processing" also occuring in the Garden Center- I suppose they will have us line up in the aisles, browsing for a new set of hedgeclippers! Anyways, folks who were pre-processed as Dissidents are now moved to the Garden Center for further further processing. Doesn't sound like an organized conspiracy to me, I wonder where they are pre-evaluated? Maybe their local YMCA (along with the rest of the dissidents).

And then they will be relocated to somewhere (with each truck driver using the tacmark system, driving trucks on the wrong sides of the entire road system). So I guess they will just back the busses up to the loading dock of Walmart, threaten us with rakes and shovels (they are getting medieval on our asses) and conveniently relocate us to bases inside the United States. Come to think of it, with all those dissidents being in one camp- protected by a single chain-link fence - it would really be a great big party! Paid to party by the UN.

Thanks Walmart, and thanks to the tacmark folks - for a really good laugh. Thomas is exactly right- this is very insulting to conspiracy theorists. I happen to believe strongly in the theories surrounding the Illuminati- quite a stretch for many to consider! But this tacmark thing... their conclusions just don't seem very sound!



posted on May, 26 2003 @ 11:09 AM
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A forced national registration is listed in the emergency executive orders as a fact. To effectively register every US citizen would require laser scanner technology of some kind at a facility with equipment already installed.

Since national registration is in the works in a national emergency (worse case scenario) I do not see it so far-fetched that computer technology at grocery stores or Walmarts used to scan ID cards or ID bracelets (which FEMA uses now with bar codes in transport and tracking refugees and injured victims to triage locations.)

The Washington Post has an interesting article about new road signs with a secondary meanings for military and emergency response personnel. (click here "Subtle Signs Will Show the Way". )
Emergency maps of the routes out of DC are accesible to the general public, but the civilian copies have "sensitive areas deleted". What are these areas?


"Officials released the map after deleting sensitive information about staging areas, emergency landing zones, operations headquarters and internal transportation routes designated for use by federal and local authorities in the event of a biological, chemical or nuclear attack".


There is no doubt plans that the general public are not privy to do exist. Whether everything on the website is true is debatable, but not impossible. I think the guy is on to something, and I for one have found many of the things described in our area also. I do not see such a plan as far-fetched. Scanning IDs at department store or Walmart using the checkouts is feasible. I don't doubt that all banking and transactions at the counters are linked to databases that could be converted to scan individual ID for a national emergency if so deemed by the government.

Carrierwave~

[Edited on 26-5-2003 by Carrierwave]

[Edited on 27-5-2003 by Carrierwave]



posted on May, 28 2003 @ 03:12 AM
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Look, I'm with Maddas. Just in case those stupid stickers mean something to someone, I say we peel the things off and rearrange them just for the ever-lovin' hatefulness of it! It'd be a hoot at least, and maybe a real pain in the buttocks for some poor, dumb schlepp that's trying to read the back of roadsigns instead of looking at his map!

C-A, I do keep myself current. While I'm no longer in the military, I am surrounded by active duty people who are willing to let me know what is real and what is memorex. In this country, it is certainly memorex. At least as far as our soldiers are concerned. Is it something to help your soldiers out when it comes time for y'all to police the stares while the U.S. military polices y'all?



posted on May, 28 2003 @ 04:02 AM
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I dunno, this my be true. But I can't get over the fact of how dumb it would be to communicate in such a manner. Considering the technology at hand, I mean, of all things, a road sign for all to see?



posted on Jun, 9 2003 @ 03:19 AM
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Aren't they on the BACK OF THE SIGNS?

I was just a prior military person, and obviously slow to these new sign manufacturing concepts



posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 01:36 PM
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the armed fores work on KISS keep it simple stupid and while GPS is now common place these signs are there in all weathers and conditions and easy for convoys to follow



posted on Jun, 29 2003 @ 05:45 AM
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could the codes i doubt are real be part of a swipe clearance card number or password if they do lead to a base??
"im suspicious of everything"



posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 12:31 AM
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Following the directions on Harold Green's website at
www.tackamarks.freeservers.com... I came up with many photos incl. 5 inward barbed wire facilities, 1 UN vehicle, 5 Wal-Marts half a block from the inward barbed wire facilities, Iron Mountain Data Management across from one inward barbed wire railroad terminal facility with COSCO cars (same Iron Mountain as The Iron Mountain Report). I sent maybe 50 of these photos and signs to Harold. He's posted several so far on his site. - Steve Volk



posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 07:26 AM
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I've really enjoyed reading this thread folks. Whilst I'm not about to start running round Scotland lookin at the back of roadsigns (not yet anyway!) this last link posted by Volk makes for interesting reading. The inward-facing barbed wire surrounding what are primarily civilian installations is a little disconcerting to say the least!



posted on Jul, 26 2003 @ 09:57 PM
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i think the guy on the linked website has been smoking crank for about 10 days straight with no sleep.



posted on Jul, 31 2003 @ 01:38 PM
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The Tacmars are real

I live about 30 miles from the White House. First of all let me say the TACMARS are real.

I saw one today marked with a question mark and pointing to the county courthouse. SO I asked a police men about it. His implication was that if you have a question you goto the courthouse. So why would someone have a question goto the courthouse?

Only in a national emergencey. So that got me thinking again about Tacmars.

I first noticed about a year ago they started putting them up. Marked Evacuation Route. The Evacuation Route signs make no sense. So if your in the government and you hate me read this.

The Evacuation Routes point to Washington DC. Well Let me just say. If your in Baltimore and you have 30 minutes to leave I am not going to Washington Because Washingtons getting nuked. I am staying in Baltimore.

DUMB DUMB DUMB Bad Government.

Bad Homeland Defense Agencey. This should all come under the people and Civil Defense.

So I saw thje question mark signs and I decided to look for TACMAR stickers. Well guess what. We have TACMAR stickers. They seem to point to Fort Meade. I got out and I read the tacmar stickers. They have a date on them. January 2000. SO thats about 1 year before the war on Terrorism. They are also marked Maryland Department of Transportation. They seem to point to the airport BWI or Fort Meade.

So why have these stickers? If the US was attacked the Russians or China would take out GPS satelites and equipment makign them useless. The signs are a good idea but poorely thought out.

I couldnt tell you if they are real or fake. Looks like half of them are real. If anyone wants to buy me a digital Camera, Ill take pictures and post them on the internet but its defenitely real. Its definetly scary.

Who knows if there ligtimate military resources or part of a NWO conspiracy but they fact that they are not well laid out makes me wonder.

We need real change in government. These tacmars are nothing if not retarded.



posted on Aug, 6 2003 @ 06:14 PM
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I highly doubt those stickers have secret directions on them. Most likely, those stickers say something like, "Made in Taiwain" or "Made by American Sign Company."



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 06:53 PM
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I have also noticed these stickers around where I live. (BC, Canada.)
There are a few on the backs of signs near elementary and highschools. I stopped to read the little stickers a few days ago, and they read something like, "Sign is made from recycled material."

On the link that many have posted, it talks also about strange positioning of arrows and signs that are out of place. I have seen many signs that have been put up in strange places, for instance a ferry sign where there are no ferries, and pointing in a direction that is far away from any water, and a school children crossing sign near the freeway and far, far away from any school, or place where children ordinarily would be crossing. Also, a sign of a man golfing that was nowhere near a golf course. (I checked.) But hey, maybe the sign people just got confused.


If anyone has visited that link, you may also have read about sign "stacking" and the arrow patterns leading to military or public facilities of somekind. I have started paying more attention to this in my area and found that these patterns seem to exist. But all I want to know is why, IF indeed there is some truth to these wierd "codes", would any of this be necessary?

It doesn't make alot of sense...



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Brittany
all I want to know is why, IF indeed there is some truth to these wierd "codes", would any of this be necessary?


Well, the idea is that, when the evil international UN comes in with their black hella choppers, the troops they will use to tapdance on the constitution won't be able to read the road signs, because they don't speak enlgish. So these tacmars are put up (by their pawns within our own governement, otherswise known as FEMA) to indicate to the foreign invaders which way to go to get to landing sites for their helicopters, public buildings that can be used as temporary holding pens and processing facilities, and other sites an invading army would find useful.

I am sure this comes as a surprise to many people who have served under the aegis of the UN. The conspiracy theorists seem to be claiming that explaing this coding system to a multi-national force with dozens of different languages is more effective than, say, letting them know how to read simple street signs. They also claim that these UN troops will come here when our own government declares some sort of emergency, thus they will come in as peace keepers, much like when/if it goes into the sudan soon.

Anyway, thats what people are saying these 'tactical markers' are for. Ludicrously enough, they also claim that many of these UN takeover signals are in regular billboards, and that some regular street signs were adopted by the United States in order to facilitate the movement of this UN army across the country.






This is an image of a regular street sign that they are claiming will lead the invaders to a canadian military base. They also find it weird that the base has barbed wire that faces inwards. I think the canadians are more worried about their troopers hopping the fence to get some beer and girls rather than keep people out of it.

Actually there was one right before this that showed the same symbol, but with an evil and insidious directional arrow on it. Thats right, they are claiming that arrows on signs, that indicate where an exit is of a highway or facility is, is part of this global conspiracy.


This one is intersting as it involves actual (if that word can even be used) 'tacmars' and nearby signs.

and this page has lots of less 'conventional' (and again, I can't help but note the absurdity of using such terms when describing these things; what's conventional when talking about conspiracy theories anyway?) usages, all supposedly intended to point out holding centers, processeing facilities, heliports and airlifts, bases, 'temporary cities', water sources, and the like to an invading UN army that can't speak english nor read our roadsigns.

Its definitely the most interesting new(ish) conspiracy theory that I have heard in a while.
anyway, thats what I have been able to get out of it so far, hth.

edited to add this:
"We must reiterate, that we believe these markers and sinage are to *pinpoint* important sites and facilities prepared for a specific, pre-arranged operation, planned over many years. It is a "civil disturbance" plan using many of our own public facilities and technology, that will deal with hundreds of thousands of frightened, confused citizens, victims of a major catastrophe and the carnage left behind in it's aftermath. " source (at the bottom)

[edit on 9-8-2004 by Nygdan]





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