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Secret Millitary Codes in our Road Sign?

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posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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I was just looking at this site which has some pictures of these TACMARS

www.pbn.4mg.com...


I don't understand how you are supposed to be able to read these markers? In the one pic there are 3 stickers all kind of aligned vertically. The arrows which were overlayed on the picture to show you what the markers means shows 1 arrow pointing straight ahead and 2 to the right but how was that decided and why couldn't it be 2 arrows pointing straight and only 1 to the right??? My point is that it seems like its not a great system if it even is one, and not very intuitive.

I would also think that if these are really military markers that a DOT worker or military person would know, but maybe not. Does anyone know if these markers have been confirmed or denied by anybody with the DOT or the military?




posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 03:58 PM
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hi everyone....btw i am new on this site......
I have read the post's and took special care to look at the back of the signs on the roads where i live, i did notice almost all the signs had some kind of tag on the backs. i am close to tyndall afb and this area was a major training spot/military installation for ww2. I am going to go out with a digi cam and investigate further, i will post them and maybe we can figure this out some more.

CS



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:33 PM
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Welcome crimsonking! I was on a multi-state roadtrip in the midwest. I blame this thread for a severe neckache (I was riding shotgun).

At the least, I think the placement variations are strange. You'd think at least each state would settle upon a correct placement guideline or something. It's like meth-heads put them on for god's sake.

Have a happy
recon.

[edit on 31-8-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]

[edit on 31-8-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:42 PM
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Oh yeah, the "UN troops" won't have ANY trouble at all reading those by light reflected from their taillights, in the rear view mirror, while driving a 50mph. I can't even read them in daylight in those pictures! *snort*



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 10:02 PM
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The code system is not that complex. Yes, the markers are "arrows". I do not see the photo on that page with "overlayed" arrows on it. Where do you see this? All I see are circles drawn around the stickers.

Anyway, the tacmar sign code is a system of arrows and arrow configurations. The older "clipped" corner markers are the same style found on the back of signs in Beruit, Lebanon as described by a USN Chief Petty Officer stationed there.

He said NATO forces stationed there put them on the signs to bridge language barriers for multi-lingual personnel doing military operations in the city. It is a universal NATO/UN code for foreign speaking military.

This is just one of several military people we have briefed who have identified these as navigational site markers. As a post said earlier, if you have trained long enough with foreign troops over-seas, you know what these are for.

Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
I do not see the photo on that page with "overlayed" arrows on it. Where do you see this? All I see are circles drawn around the stickers.



Sorry it wasnt that website where I saw the pic. The pic I was reffering to with the 2 arrows point right and one straight can be found by googling images for TACMARS

images.google.com...

1st row all the way to the right.

So why would the marker on the upper left of the top sign mean straight ahead and not left???



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 07:43 PM
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Warpboost,

I see the photo you are refering to. That photo was taken in Rapid City, Michigan approaching Plum Valley Road intersection. We had just past these new signs and snapped the photo of the markers on the back. The front of the signs are color coded "green".

Plum Valley Road is a green route. The green routes have the facilities and resources located on them that are marked with the tacmars. There is a public school, Fire Station#7, a large Baptist Church building, and athletic fields.

These are the FEMA sites. It is conceivable that this is a major FEMA staging area. The fire station being headquarters (cell tower right behind), Across the road are the athletic fields being the heliport/airlift, the Church building and public school are relocation sites for detaining/housing people. ALL church buildings researched in Michigan are marked with sign codes.

This is important. As you *face* the back of these signs, the two markers are pointing to your *right*. However, sitting in the drivers seat with your back to the markers, the markers are pointing *left*. This is how they are viewed in your rear-view mirrors. The markers seen in your mirror are indicating a *left* turn at the approaching intersection on Plum Valley Road.

As you make your turn to the *left* the FEMA sites are dead ahead and have "green" road signs positioned in front of them with tacmars "turned on end" on the backs.

Your observation is good about the marker turned on end. At first we also felt this meant "straight ahead" but after hundreds of hours of study in cities and towns across Michigan, Indiana and Illinois and in Canada we have concluded that these are "not" directionals but FEMA symbols to ID the sites. This is found at scores of other staging areas. Some sites are marked with an "arrow-up" on the front of the signs with no tacmar on the back. The arrow-up code is synonomous with marker turned on end.

The FEMA symbol is the "triangle" taken from the civil defense protocols of the Geneva Convention, article 66 chpt. 4. We have deciphered these arrow-up symbols as FEMA triangles.

Carrierwave~

[edit on 1-9-2005 by Carrierwave1]



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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To All,

Despite all of the negative posts here against this research I want to reiterate that these markers are part of a real international operation under NATO/UN sponsorship. If they are NOT in your area they are coming soon. Different areas of the country are in different stages of completion.

There are codes on the fronts of the sign as well. Though you may not see the tacmars, the frontal codes are already in place. The markers are the latter stages of the operation. This is being done slowly and deliberately to avoid detection coupled with a major brainwashing of the populace using international symbols, ensigns, and images displayed in the public sector; T.V., advertizing, even freight and packaging signage. We have accepted it into our lives without question as everyday things that enter the eye-gate. Most of you do not see it. Yet we get e-mails from all around this country from alert Americans who see it happening. We are just waiting for the rest of you to catch up with us. I hope you do before it is too late!

Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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Well I'm glad we have you smarter people to show the rest of us sheeple the way and to protect us.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 06:19 PM
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Not willing to learn, and not willing to be warned.

Have a nice eternity, Zappy.

Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 06:38 PM
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I'm not entirely sure what "tacmars" have to do with my eternity, but ok, I certainly will.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
Despite all of the negative posts here against this research I want to reiterate that these markers are part of a real international operation under NATO/UN sponsorship. If they are NOT in your area they are coming soon. Different areas of the country are in different stages of completion.


In other words, because some of us either disagree with your claim, or have offered proof to the contrary, you've labelled these posts as "negative" simply because they don't support your point of view.

Some of us are still actually waiting for viable proof. Sure, you've said "oh, well it's going to happen soon, if it's not there yet" - but that's awfully convenient. Would you happen to know the timeline for various states?

I do need to ask - have you ever seen this site? It's admittedly more than a little tongue in cheek, but the author makes some good points in contrast to the claims you've made here. Perhaps you'd like to comment?



We have accepted it into our lives without question as everyday things that enter the eye-gate. Most of you do not see it. Yet we get e-mails from all around this country from alert Americans who see it happening. We are just waiting for the rest of you to catch up with us. I hope you do before it is too late!


Sorry, this is simple scaremongering mixed in with a whole big pile of "We know better than you foolish mortals" rhetoric. Nothing more, nothing less.

I get emails on a daily basis from a small group of women who are convinced that they were brainwashed (in the true conspiratorial sense) into having a particular surgical procedure.

Does the quantity and/or frequency of these emails mean that the claims have any truth?

Of course not.

"We get emails..." isn't proof of anything other than people choosing to believe something, whether or not that something actually exists.

Sorry, you just haven't been able to rise up and prove your case. *shrug*



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 01:48 PM
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Tinkleflower,

I believe in tacmar theory and I would also like to hear more about that group of women. I think the same group has been emailing me. Personally, I believe them.

Are there any close-up images of the various stickers? I can't remember seeing any.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:25 PM
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tinkle,

that sight you linked us to doesn't prove him wrong. it's just one person with an extrememly biased view who happens to be violently against the tacmar conspiracy. Personally, neither side has proved anything. Thus, the debate continues.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by LooseLipsSinkShips
tinkle,

that sight you linked us to doesn't prove him wrong. it's just one person with an extrememly biased view who happens to be violently against the tacmar conspiracy. Personally, neither side has proved anything. Thus, the debate continues.


I don't believe I ever stated that it did prove anything, one way or the other


T'was merely a look at the other side of the coin, so to speak - seeing as the "pro" references in this thread are more than a little biased themselves...

(You'll also note that I did say it was rather tongue-in-cheek - it's fairly obvious that the author had a distinct bias, and one which I'd readily agree to him having!)



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 10:41 AM
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I do not mind criticism; on the contrary, it seems to stimulate the conversation and thinking. I would not get too offended at what I said and I was not refering to anyone directly who has most recently posted a message. As a matter of fact this one page has been more open-minded than usual. There is a method to my approach however. We get more people mad than you know. Yet, this has led many of these people to get off their blessed assurance check it out more diligently. Even to the point to try to prove us wrong. The results have been amazing. More people are getting educated and see it.

This is my goal. All I can do is tell you what we have done and the results we have achieved in the past eight years or more.. I do take somewhat offence to those who call us liars. We have tried and tested what we have reported; to call us liars is presumptous, and close-mindeded arrogance. The proof you are looking for is not found on this board; it is out there on the roadways and streets and country-side. You will have to confirm it for yourself. Positive proof will come when the government comes out and admits to it. When that happens (which I highly doubt) this topic will vanish from this board as it will no longer be an above top-secret. For all intensive purposes, at least we got a few folks attention.

As for the debunking website, "Skip" was slapped with a few lawsuits and has calmed him down a lot. If you think his comments are "violent " you should have seen the tacmar topic 3 years ago. Let's just say a lawyer convinced him to take down the really bad stuff, and the copyrighted photos and texts he used from Free Indeed's website. He was facing a bill of $15,000 for copyright infringement and use charges of the material without written permission. The guy is not worthy of much attention execpt to entertain other unethical morons. I believe most of his so-called comments have already been debunked here on this board. However, if anyone here want to go into his trash and dig out some of his arguments you are free to do so.


Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 10:13 PM
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IT HAS BEGUN--"NORTHCOM" FOREIGN TROOPS ENTER U.S. BORDERS FOR "EMERGENCY"

We are about to see something very interesting coming to pass. I hope you skeptics are sitting down. Armed Mexican troops have crossed U.S. border to "aid in disaster relief". "NORTHCOM" Assumes Control over Entire Country. U.S. divided into 10 strategic regions for military control.

Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 10:24 PM
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"A 44-vehicle convoy of 200 UNARMED troops flew Mexico's red, white and green national flag from every cab as it moved into San Antonio, where Mexican forces killed 189 rebels in the
famous Battle of the Alamo in 1836 during the Texas revolution against Mexican rule."

"The first of 45 vehicles in the convoy crossed the international bridge at Laredo at about 8:15 a.m. Military engineers, doctors and nurses are among the 200 people headed to San Antonio. "

"The convoy will be escorted by the U.S. Army and the Texas Department of Public Safety. It was scheduled to leave after the leader of the convoy, Gen. Francisco Ortiz Valadez, greeted the head of the U.S. Army unit in charge of the escort, Brig. Gen. F. Joseph Prasek."







posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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Eye witnesses state otherwise; they ARE armed. However this is not the point. This is Desensitization. Urban warrior training in Texas has armed troops from several foreign countries staging mock urban fighting confiscating firearms, and force evacuations of residents. I don't swallow press releases that say "unarmed". A convoy of military troops that large do not travel "unarmed" regardless of how much relief they bring.

"The first sighting occurred at 12:30 on Highway 183 traveling towards Austin. The eyewitness described at least ten vehicles, four jeeps (other witnesses described them as Humvees) and six combat trucks brimming with armed Mexican troops wearing body armor, helmets and rifles. The troops riding in the jeeps were wearing holstered hand guns.

The vehicles were not being escorted by the US army or any other government vehicles and the vehicles were festooned with insignia reading 'Mexico MP's' and the Mexican flag."

Mexican military enters Texas for first time since 1846

NORTHCOM Pact would allow U.S. troops into Canada, and Canada into the U.S. during emergency.
Mexican Troops Aid Katrina Efforts? The second sighting of a similar nature occurred north of Austin on I35 near Georgetown Texas.

I have no doubts these ARMED troops are going to be involved in the forced evacutions of the remnants holed up in New Orleans.

Carrierwave~



posted on Sep, 10 2005 @ 12:11 AM
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WE DO NOT NEED FOREIGN TROOPS to help victims of Katrina.

Stockpiles of food clothing medicine, and volunteers blocked by FEMA.

It is apparent FEMA is creating the climate for more disaster. Americans have responed nation-wide with aid that is more than enough to help victims still in New Orleans. Cities across the country have semi-trailers stationed at large shopping centers being filled and sent to Louisiana and Mississippi. The volunteers are waiting to go in and render the disribution of relief to the hurting and homeless. However, FEMA has been the major stumbling block. They don't want American help it is obvious, turning away trucks filled with fresh water, medicine, food ect. Associated press has already reported that FEMA announced remnants left in New Orleans "will not get help" unless they leave.

Why then is the U.S. asking for more foreign aid? Yet today the U.S. has asked NATO FOR AID!

NATO AID REQUESTED: SCOTSMAN NEWS SOURCE

FEMA is NATO'S agent here in the U.S. and foreign military presence is welcomed by them while U.S. aid and volunteers are shunned. There is a reason for all of this and unfortunately it is coming to pass before our eyes.

Carrierwave~




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