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Secret Millitary Codes in our Road Sign?

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posted on Aug, 29 2005 @ 04:59 PM
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What is your closest Interstate system? What bases are you near?

I have an e-mail from Fort Hood Texas that reports tacmars on all routes into the base and continuing on into the base also. This is a UN "partnership" facility.

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posted on Aug, 29 2005 @ 05:10 PM
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Like I said, we have three major commands headquartered here, the main base for the USN Pacfleet, and USAF Pacific Air Forces base. I asked several friends on the mainland in different areas and they looked and they didn't see anything either. I don't know how hard they looked, but they said they couldn't find anything.



posted on Aug, 29 2005 @ 08:11 PM
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If you are under Federal D.O.T. road sign standards, you have international signage which have codes on the front of the signs. These codes are wordless image signs, in particular, yield triangle, diamond cross-walk (man walking) any "arrow-up" signage, opposite pointing arrows, arrows in 3's, the wordless stop-ahead with "arrow up", red circle-white bar "do not enter" signage. This is how it started here in Michigan. As of 5 years ago there were no markers on the backs of county road signs, yet the international signage was being integrated and new positioning of the signs on the road way. Over the past 4 years the markers began to appear on the backs. Now our county has complete coverage along with Crawford county. All military sites have positional markers pointing into the gates at the U.S. Army Reserve Headquarters, U.S. Coast Guard helicopter airstation, (a former U.S. Naval Base) This base has european international signage and "tacmars" marking strategic buildings on the base.

I hope you are not trying to deny the markers exist at all. We have photos and eyewitness reports from nearly 38 states taken by individuals verifying the same patterns in the markers at sensitive locations and military sites. One at the Kentucky "Bluegrass Army Depot" a chemical weapons storage facility. We probably have the largest cache of chemical/bio weapons of mass destruction anywhere globally.

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by Junkmanphil
Yah, I may have a "Beautiful Mind" concept to this, but, if only 1% of anything on this site is true, then we paranoids are justified keeping and embracing our paranoia.

I think that there ARE codes placed on our signs. The universal new world order military symbols may also be creeping onto our signs and are providing directions to any military force. I'm noticing placement of signs changes. On one sign, the camping symbol is imprinted onto the large exit sign, but at the next exit, a small camping sign is bolted to the lower left of an exit sign denoting the location of the local National Guard Armory and Civic Center. The armory and civic center would make a great place for "VISITING TROOPS" to "camp", thus the need for the small, seperately mounted sign. Another small sign was bolted to at the WV Tamarac Center,(a big complex of buildings with a huge truck stop and parking) exit denoting "TDD service available" Sounds like code for a communications hub.

There may even be a rudimentary binary code built into the reflector schemes going down exit ramps..e.g. square/square, round/round, round/round, round/round, round/square round/square, round/round.

Also of particular nots is the sudden proliferation of RED reflectors near exit ramps. Red is a color that is NEVER used except for wrong way indications. It appears that a number of the red reflectors have been placed where new bases for signs have been cemented into the ground, but on one sign, someone placed three big red reflectors on a sign for the Tamarac. area(described above). I noticed red reflectors in PA as well, seems like a coordinated scheme. The guys here at an 8-county DOH headquarters building don't seem to know anything.

Additional note may be also a series of red and blue reflectors just past two toll booths on I-64. Could be a rally point for convoys after passing through the toll/check-point.

More later.....




Great post Junkman-- I think you are on to something. You are correct about the color codes. We have cataloged "green" routes as major routes with sites where populations and facilities to house them are located . The dominate colors though are as you have related; code "blue" and code "red". Also during martial law, only authorized vehicle will be allowed to travel the roads. They can travel any direction they choose. Off ramps will also be used as on ramps. Traffic could be reversed on these ramps so the markers are facing at you on the backs of the signs.

Again, great post!

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 09:40 AM
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Now I realise that Fargo, ND isn't the centre of the universe for well...most people, really (Coen Brothers notwithstanding); however I wouldn't expect it to be excluded from an apparently national phenomenon.

Yesterday I took a few walks, and spent some time looking for stickers on the back of road signs. I found none (other than Happy Bunny stickers, which don't count).

Now my research isn't complete; as we're very close to Hector Air National Guard, I'd expect to see something of this nature as the area does apparently carry some strategic importance.

So, I'm off out again soon, and I'll report back.

I also spent some time perusing the site mentioned in earlier posts; I'm sorry, but there were some parts of the site which centered on religious doctrine which made little or no sense at all given the subject matter at hand, and made the rest of the site seem a little less credible than it might otherwise have been.

Again though, my research certainly isn't complete. I'll keep you posted.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 11:39 AM
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Religion and philosophy, play a major role in the signcode phenomenon. Those setting up the world government/world army are very religious. Of course this does not seem to offend you. But mention the Lord Jesus Christ and you get this kind of negative response. Your is a lack of education, It all fits into into what's coming and you don't even know it.

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
Religion and philosophy, play a major role in the signcode phenomenon. Those setting up the world government/world army are very religious. Of course this does not seem to offend you. But mention the Lord Jesus Christ and you get this kind of negative response. Your is a lack of education, It all fits into into what's coming and you don't even know it.

Carrierwave~


!!!!!!!

Wow. Way to assume, my friend.


And, you're implying that anyone disagreeing with your views and/or conclusions is simply not educated enough about the situation.

That's actually quite sad.

But, as promised, I will report back with any observations made today regarding road signs.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 02:25 PM
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It is true, you do not understand. Since you said you do not see how it fits. The signcodes are part of a mass evacution plan of FEMA. People will be detained, sorted, marked and relocated. They will use scanners at the checkout to process and prepare the subjects for relocation. With human micro-chipping on the rise, and the scanners are here to do the processing, it is conceivable America is being set up for her demise. If you have a Christian world view this fits well into the prophetic appearance of a world dictatorship and UN plans for a World Government. America is in the way. She must be reduced and/or reorganized to pave the way for it to be brought to fruition. World government is everywhere in preparation. If you don't see it, it is only fair to say you do not understand the signs of the times. I reserve the right to my convictions and opinions as I respect yours and you can voice them here.

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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You still assume much, I'm afraid.

I was Christian for much of my life, and spent more than a few years researching the various subjects to which you're attesting.

Simply because I'm no longer Christian doesn't mean I didn't, or do not, understand what you're saying - rather, I fail to see how scripture proves anything at all relating to these signs.

(I'm back home, obviously. Still no luck finding those stickers in Fargo).



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
They will use scanners at the checkout to process and prepare the subjects for relocation.
Carrierwave~

You keep going on about how they need these markers on the back of road signs as they won't be able to use GPS (no idea why - which "enemy" is likely to knock out their electronics?). However it looks like they will be relying entirely on implanted chips and scanners for contolling the people. This doesn't seem to tie with their intentional lack of reliance on electronics.

One question that you have never properly answered in 14 pages of debate: why don't they use maps?

Just to go back to one of your previous posts:



I have personally driven routes at 55 mph and have been able to use this method without fail. The markers light up very clearly in your mirror and the backwards effect of reflected markers vividly display navigationally correct directionals

Would you like to give any evidence at all that this works?? Perhaps some photographic evidence? Not of the "markers" themselves, but perhaps a photograph taken of a mirror on a car travelling at 55 mph showing how clear the navigational symbols are?

Do you actually have any idea of how mad this sounds to anyone who has ever travelled in a car doing 55 mph at night? That somehow I could light up the back of a sign at night as I clipped past it and gain navigational information from it using my rear view mirrors?!!!???? And not only would it work, it would be a more effective way of finding your way than a map? Or looking at the front of signs for that matter.



May I ask about your research? What data and experimental methods have you performed that would refute our findings? We have gone to cities we have never previously been before. We have accurately discovered the routes that are coded and the sites on those routes that are marked using the reverse reflective navigation method and it works every time

So you say, but you are just saying this. You don't present any evidence that you have actually done this and it works, we are just expected to believe you.



I would like to see YOUR data, ZAP.

And I would just love to see yours. All you say is that you have done some experiments and they prove your hypothesis. You're not really going to get this published in Nature.

BTW this is one of my favourite threads on ATS and for some reason it just won't die. Lets keep it going!

EDIT: spelling

[edit on 30/8/05 by FatherLukeDuke]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Tinkleflower
You still assume much, I'm afraid.

I was Christian for much of my life, and spent more than a few years researching the various subjects to which you're attesting.

Simply because I'm no longer Christian doesn't mean I didn't, or do not, understand what you're saying - rather, I fail to see how scripture proves anything at all relating to these signs.

(I'm back home, obviously. Still no luck finding those stickers in Fargo).


My friend, there is no such thing as a "used to be" Christian. That is like saying "I was born, but now I am unborn." You cannot be "unborn". Christians are "born" from above by the Holy Spirit. You cannot be "unborn" of the Spirit either.

This is a whole different topic, however, if you were ever truely a "born again" child of God, you will remain a child of God forever. You are sealed by the Spirit until the day of redemption through the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 4:30) Of course it is possible you might have thought you were a Christian, but never truely trusted Jesus Christ as the Savior of your soul. Jesus Christ's shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection is God's only way for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life in Heaven after you die.

Since you have never seen any of these "tacmars" it will be hard for you to except anything I say about them. However, as I have stated before, all D.O.T. road signs have been strategically re-positioned on the highways for the code system; even if there are no markers on the back, ..yet. The markers are the "fine-tuning" of the code system. It is an international code for foreign military use; unfamiliar with the language and with the area.

We have deciphered much of the codes and they indicate a major disaster. The routes that are designated have the emergency sites located on them and they are marked with these signcodes. The fact that this is happening nation-wide (actually globally) is an indication something is coming; the unthinkable... possibly on a global scale. We believe it to be "signs" of the tribulation coming to the whole planet.

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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FEMA does have maps of these emergency plans. This is documented in a Washington Post news article that I posted back about page 4. However, maps could never be used without point of reference indicators. If maps could be used alone, then lets get rid of all the ugly road signs and save the country a bundle. The fact is without point of reference indicators you would get lost at the first exit!

I believe they do have maps. (these are detailed emergency FEMA/military maps and are not gas station friendly) But they are virtually useless without tacmars and other FEMA signcode indicators marking the roads and sites, especially at night if the power is off. By the way, "father", you make a good point. This is "mad", crazy, and any other words or adjectives you can come up with to describe it. But that is what makes it is so clever,--so you won't believe it.

Carrierwave~

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posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
If maps could be used alone, then lets get rid of all the ugly road signs and save the country a bundle. The fact is without point of reference indicators you would get lost at the first exit!

Roadsigns are there for conveniance and for people who don't have a map. Are you telling me that a military trained navigator would not be able to use a map without getting lost?? What do they do in areas where there are no roadsigns? Wonder round in circles?

I go hill and mountain walking all the time in the UK, I always use a map and compass and there are no signs, "tacmars" or anything else to guide the way. I use my map reading skills and the environment to tell where I am. This is considerably easier to do on roads than it is moors, especially when you can just read the front of signs to tell where you are going!



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 05:44 AM
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Walking a trail or hiking with a compass is completely different than what we have been talking about. However, you cannot tell me there are not points of reference even when you are hiking. I have done lots of hiking myself with a map. You are not being honest if you are telling me you do not look for points of reference that are on the map. You have to constantly verify your location or you will get lost in a strange area.

You do not think trained military can get lost? Tell that to the small convoy a couple years back that took the wrong turn on an Iraqi an unfamiliar road because their MG/GPS unit suffered a glitch. It led them it to an ambush. It was all over the news. Military people, are people, and people make mistakes.

The tacmar code system is a well planned routed "Operation." The routes are marked, the sites are marked. There are contingencies in military planning and tacmars are one of them. You claim you like this thread so much, yet I have posted this subject before in pages back. Maybe you are not listening.




Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1


Since you have never seen any of these "tacmars" it will be hard for you to except anything I say about them.


Perhaps because they don't actually exist in this part of the world?



However, as I have stated before, all D.O.T. road signs have been strategically re-positioned on the highways for the code system; even if there are no markers on the back, ..yet. The markers are the "fine-tuning" of the code system. It is an international code for foreign military use; unfamiliar with the language and with the area.


As you've stated, yes - with nothing in the way of evidence other than supposition. As promised though, I'll keep posting as to my progress...we're travelling outside of the area now, and would you not agree that it would seem implausible that a major urban area such as the Twin Cities (for example) would not yet have these markers?


The fact that this is happening nation-wide (actually globally) is an indication something is coming; the unthinkable... possibly on a global scale. We believe it to be "signs" of the tribulation coming to the whole planet.
Carrierwave~


No, the fact is that you think something is about to happen. (There's nothing in Newcastle, Reading or Leicester, England either by family accounts).

In summary:

If these things were as common and deliberate as you're saying, it seems unlikely that major cities with obvious military bases would be "out of the loop", as it were. Until there's actually evidence that these markers actually exist in every city - which we've obviously found is not the case - it's impossible to even take the premise further.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by Carrierwave1
I have done lots of hiking myself with a map. You are not being honest if you are telling me you do not look for points of reference that are on the map. You have to constantly verify your location or you will get lost in a strange area.


Err, yes that's exactly what I said:



I use my map reading skills and the environment to...

The "environment" means points of reference, that's how you read a map. You couldn't do it without looking at what is around you.



You do not think trained military can get lost?


Of course they can get lost. However if they followed a map properly and used the front of signs they could navigate without something stuck to the back of signs.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 11:37 AM
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There are codes on the fronts of the signs as well, The markers on the back are the directionals. International signs have symbols in many of the pictorials. There are "triangles" and "circles" (FEMA insignia) embedded in the images such as and international "recycle" sign has a triangle. The international "library" symbol has a triangle, as well as the bicycle route symbol. Tacmars on the back, however, will point to things entirely different.

Again, this is a planned operation, and it is disguised with everyday signs. They have secondary meaning to FEMA/military.

Carrierwave~



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 12:40 PM
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So what happens when the people riot, bombs blow up, guns go off, cars wreck and buildings explode.. and these precious tacmars are caught in the middle of it? Will the UN wonder around helplessly since they can't read maps?

You also, after uhm 15 pages now, still refused to answer why they cant read road maps.. you don't have to read the english language to read a road map.

What about the vast number of counties that don't require these stickers? Are they safe from the evil takeover?

Or what about the counties that use permanant markers on the back of signs instead of stickers?



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 01:28 PM
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Can someone post the link to the website that has pictures with explanations of all these TACMARS on the backs of signs? I had a bookmark to it that no longer works?

I think it is possible that the military would mark signs in certain areas, but why only the back
Why wouldn't the just put the markings on the front of the sign



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 02:34 PM
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Where are you getting the idea that I don't believe there are maps? FEMA has maps. Maps look at the big picture, the sign coded routes and sites are the confirmation signals and fine tuning of the operation. What is so hard to believe about this?

Suppose a nuke goes off in New York City, not all the tacmar signcodes in the whole state are going to get wiped out in a disaster. Think a little farther than the end of your nose!

Carrierwave~



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