Hundreds gather in Tampa for the love of Ron Paul

Originally posted by eazyriderl_l
perhaps ron paul supporters are the reason they are emptying the jail. I know they said "protesters" but that is a broad brush to be painted with.

No, it's likely for anarchists in the Occupy movement who will be hanging about. Also looks like Code Pink is planning to attend, and maybe this Spanish revolutionary group too

www.blogtalkradio.com...

Also some group called Food Not Bombs, and the radical leftist environmental group Earth First planning to join Occupy.
from this page I can easily see where some of the anti-romney stuff on Bain comes from....from the Occupy people
occupytampa.org...

oh yah and a voter suppression protest group lololol I shoulda seen that one coming... maybe it's the new face of ACORN


It could be they are expecting large masses of protest groups from every camp

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
reply to post by Pipebomb24875

 

Your statement would only hold water if you are going to Paul Fest. So are you? If not, you fall into the group of people I was talking about.

edit on 26-8-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)

What is your major malfunction, ........? Your point makes no sense, just trolling for a reaction? I donated and I'm watching the rally live. Do I have to physically be in Florida or something, what do you want?

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by jjf3rd77

 

If I lived near the state of Florida I would, but I don't, so I cannot walk the walk so to speak. Btw, what walk are you talking about?

Hm, that makes sense for you, but how many others on here have boasted and praised Ron Paul? Made up crazy theories about him and his "true" support? Cried about media manipulation and so forth. Yet, his very vocal followers on here won't even fork over the money and go to the Paul Fest...Which by the way he won't be attending!!!!

Will you join him in tampa? He is having a rally at the sun dome. But if you can't afford it...Then you didn't walk the walk...

edit on 26-8-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)

I bet if you asked the supporters in Tampa where they are from most of them will be out of staters. Now just because not every single RP supporter is in Tampa right now doesn't take away they support for Ron Paul. You're the only one who thinks that. Same goes for you and whoever your candidate is. Are you planning on going to the RNC or DNC? Whether you are or you aren't I wouldn't judge your devotion to your candidate if you weren't going. Only a fool would do that .

Who do you support, because we all know you don't support Paul because we see you in a lot of RP threads hating. So we get it, you don't like RP but the question for you is, WHO DO YOU SUPPORT? Then maybe we can have a chance to attack your candidate and blah blah blah.

And are you seriously LoLing at me because not only can I NOT afford to fly to Tampa for the week but I also cannot take the TIME off from my job? What is wrong with you? You do know America and the rest of the world is in dire financial straights right? At this point, I'm declaring you troll.

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It makes me sad I could not go either. I would have loved to have been at SunDome to support his physical presence.

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I wish they would NOT go to the RNC, that instead they would gather elsewhere and take away the energy from romney being handed the illegal and stolen title.

Funny if when he gets handed the title everyone walks out. No applause, just silence and the door slamming.

Originally posted by Pipebomb24875
Somehow the live stream likes on Youtube are ticking downwards. I started watching when there were about 800 people watching. It had 505 likes 9 dislikes. There's over 7000 watching atm. Now its down to 483 likes 33 dislikes. It makes no sense, you can't un-like your vote.

Live youtube stream finished 455 likes, 455 dislikes. 47 of my 73 Ron Paul videos have been deleted. F google and youtube.

Also I found out if you hit "like" you can undo it. If you hit "dislike" people were unable to change it. Not a surprise I watched the same thing happen in 2008.

Originally posted by Swills

1. I bet if you asked the supporters in Tampa where they are from most of them will be out of staters. Now just because not every single RP supporter is in Tampa right now doesn't take away they support for Ron Paul. You're the only one who thinks that. Same goes for you and whoever your candidate is. Are you planning on going to the RNC or DNC? Whether you are or you aren't I wouldn't judge your devotion to your candidate if you weren't going. Only a fool would do that

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2. Who do you support, because we all know you don't support Paul because we see you in a lot of RP threads hating. So we get it, you don't like RP but the question for you is, WHO DO YOU SUPPORT? Then maybe we can have a chance to attack your candidate and blah blah blah.

3. And are you seriously LoLing at me because not only can I NOT afford to fly to Tampa for the week but I also cannot take the TIME off from my job? What is wrong with you? You do know America and the rest of the world is in dire financial straights right? At this point, I'm declaring you troll.

edit on 26-8-2012 by Swills because: (no reason given)

1. While True. You missed my point. I am saying that the support online for Ron Paul does not transfer into the real world. I see Ron Paul 2012 everywhere even on Mainstream websites. You sit around with a bunch of people who believe the same things you do and you start to believe that everyone thinks the same way! You you begin to wonder how and why everybody else doesn't!

2. That is a typical RP response and and I have answered this too many times in countless threads, and RP supporters keep on asking me this question. I don't know why its so hard to go and check posting history before asking stupid questions in a lengthy BS Paragraph. But at the end you proved your purpose. You said you only want to know the candidate I support so you can attack him. So go ahead, attack Romney, I'm used to it!

3. No. I am not laughing at you because you cannot afford to go to tampa. I am laughing at you because you do not want to drop everything and make it possible no matter what to support your candidate of choice. From the activity on here and elsewhere in cyberworld I would suspect most Ron Paul supporters would do anything they could to go see the man in person speak at one of the two rallies. I know it's one of my goals to hear Romney/Ryan speak in public, maybe even to meet them before the election. What exactly are you doing to support Ron Paul? Me, I became a Republican because of Obama, I support Mitt Romney because of Obama. I am going into local, state, and national politics because of Obama and his socialist friends. I may not have enough time or money to go to Tampa either, but that is not my pressing concern at the moment. That convention is for Romney and while I do support him, I do not need to be in Tampa and hinder the start of my own career.

double post

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Swills

1. I bet if you asked the supporters in Tampa where they are from most of them will be out of staters. Now just because not every single RP supporter is in Tampa right now doesn't take away they support for Ron Paul. You're the only one who thinks that. Same goes for you and whoever your candidate is. Are you planning on going to the RNC or DNC? Whether you are or you aren't I wouldn't judge your devotion to your candidate if you weren't going. Only a fool would do that

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2. Who do you support, because we all know you don't support Paul because we see you in a lot of RP threads hating. So we get it, you don't like RP but the question for you is, WHO DO YOU SUPPORT? Then maybe we can have a chance to attack your candidate and blah blah blah.

3. And are you seriously LoLing at me because not only can I NOT afford to fly to Tampa for the week but I also cannot take the TIME off from my job? What is wrong with you? You do know America and the rest of the world is in dire financial straights right? At this point, I'm declaring you troll.

edit on 26-8-2012 by Swills because: (no reason given)

1. While True. You missed my point.......!

I missed your point about Ron Paul's popularity not transferring to real life? What are you talking about. These points you think you made only exist in your head and not in reality. Fact is Ron Paul rally's have always been successful with LOTS OF PEOPLE in attendance. So his online popularity does indeed transfer to real life

2. That is a typical RP response and and I have answered this too many times in countless threads, and RP supporters keep on asking me this question....

Oh stop, it is not a typical anything. The point I'm making is anyone here on ATS who reads Ron Paul threads is familiar with you and you're opinion of him. If someone is new to ATS and not familiar with you all they have to do is read your signature. So since we know you're here to put RP and his supporters down, yet once again, I wonder who it is you support. I mean, if you support this candidate they must be THE candidate to support, right? Since I choose RP, in your eyes I must be some fanatic, lunatic, or delusional supporter, right? That's the impression I get reading your posts in threads discussing Ron Paul. So if I'm the crazy one then what are you, the sane one?

Well excuse me Mr. High and Mighty, now instead of answering a simple question you demand people look at your post history to figure out when and where you stated who you support? Are you kidding me!? The reason so man RP fans on ATS ask you who you support is simple, that's because you love to troll RP threads so naturally during your trolling RP supporters are going to be very curious about who it is you support, since you love to take shots at us. So if I had to guess I'd say you support Obama or Romney? If you that's true then good for you, but you don't see me coming into your Pro Romney/Obama threads putting you and your fellow supporters down. Oh wait a second, how many Pro Romney/Obama threads are there on ATS, or anywhere on the net (besides their own websites of course)?

3. No. I am not laughing at you because you cannot afford to go to tampa. I am laughing at you because.....

No matter how you want to twist it you are laughing at me because I can't afford to go to Tampa or take time off from my job. Just because I support one candidate and his views doesn't mean it must become my life, my passion, so much so I save all my pennies and lose my job to join a RP rally in Tampa. Yeah that makes sense. I could easily support the rally from home, watching it live on YouTube. With your line of logic, are you dropping everything to join your candidates rally or convention or whatever?! Either way, I don't care but I'm curious if you practice the crazy you preach. How many rallies have you been, out of curiosity? Are you delegate for your chosen one? Are you active at all in local politics? What makes you so special that you so easily judge Ron Paul supporters?

I see you support Romney! Hilarious, but that's all I'll say about that. So here you are, in the same shoes as me, you also can't afford to go to Tampa but yet you have the gall to open your mouth like you do. I am wow'd, sir. The convention is for Romney but you don't need to support him because it's for him? What logic is that?



So because of Obama you became a Republican. I guess that's step 1 in helping your new found party, check. And you have desires to go into not only local politics, but state and federal as well? Well, we all have desires but that doesn't mean we act on them. Have you acted on them? I guess step 2 would be voting in said politics but are you telling me you are looking to actually become involved like becoming a politician, clerk, etc? Are you a delegate for team Romney? Oh wait, nvm, if you were you'd probably be going to Tampa next week.

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
3. No. I am not laughing at you because you cannot afford to go to tampa. I am laughing at you because you do not want to drop everything and make it possible no matter what to support your candidate of choice. From the activity on here and elsewhere in cyberworld I would suspect most Ron Paul supporters would do anything they could to go see the man in person speak at one of the two rallies. I know it's one of my goals to hear Romney/Ryan speak in public, maybe even to meet them before the election. What exactly are you doing to support Ron Paul? Me, I became a Republican because of Obama, I support Mitt Romney because of Obama. I am going into local, state, and national politics because of Obama and his socialist friends. I may not have enough time or money to go to Tampa either, but that is not my pressing concern at the moment. That convention is for Romney and while I do support him, I do not need to be in Tampa and hinder the start of my own career.

edit on 26-8-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)

This is the most hypocrytical thoughtless response I've ever read on ATS. You need to go back to your first thread "US Politics: What Am I?" and re-read what others had to say about "conservative/liberal" politics. You've been politically conscious for what, ... a year and you put yourself up on a throne. Obama was elected because he wasn't George Bush. You're voting for Romney because he's not Obama. If Romney were elected something tells me in 4 years you'd switch to liberal and the dissonant feedback loop of American politics continues.

reply to post by EvilSadamClone

Hundreds? Mmm hmm, sure there were "hundreds".

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Yeah.. as did Paul. It was pretty biased article that used what I would consider condescing and sarcastic phrasinng. Anyway anyyone that actually watched saw the multiple thousands that actually are in tampa and filled the sun dome on cspan.

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Yeah really. I personally know of several "ronvoys" that aare picking anyone that registers up and driving them to tampa for the convention. He packed the sun dome. And tampa set aside a prison (literally moved the prisoners out for "protestors")

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You would love to believe that except the man won ten to fifteen percent (at least) of the vote in every state by prett much word of mouth. Romney lost to him in several states. Not to mention how many votes the gop shaved off in fraud (all states it was probably in the tens of thousands). If he had had any mainstream supporterhe would have had a lot more. You need to open your eyes. Paul was packing stadiums while Romney had maybe E00 people. The only reason Romney got any votes was because the media said he could beat Obama, those voters don't support Romney. They don't care they just vote and forget it. You are one of a very small group that actually supports this liberal idiot Romney.

Originally posted by Swills


1. I missed your point about Ron Paul's popularity not transferring to real life? What are you talking about. These points you think you made only exist in your head and not in reality. Fact is Ron Paul rally's have always been successful with LOTS OF PEOPLE in attendance. So his online popularity does indeed transfer to real life

2. Well excuse me Mr. High and Mighty, now instead of answering a simple question you demand people look at your post history to figure out when and where you stated who you support? Are you kidding me!? The reason so man RP fans on ATS ask you who you support is simple, that's because you love to troll RP threads so naturally during your trolling RP supporters are going to be very curious about who it is you support, since you love to take shots at us.

3. Are you dropping everything to join your candidates rally or convention or whatever?!
4. Are you active at all in local politics?
5. What makes you so special that you so easily judge Ron Paul supporters?

1. If Ron Paul was as popular as he and his followers claim he was. He would win elections and more than a "couple" of states.

2. you guys make yourselves so easy to troll. I am not high and mighty. Not sure why you wanted to use those words to describe me but I thank you!

3. I don't really care about rallies. I care about real politics. Real politics is not rallies, isn't that what most people would call pandering? Fake smiles? Paid supporters? Paid media? Forgive me for not liking rallies but I'd rather be in the middle of DC than there. That's showing support sure, but I originally endorsed Huntsman and tried to get as many people to pay attention to him as I knew. All Republicans that are not Libertarians in disguise are voting for Romney. Some loud conservatives are not voting but, they may yet come around.

4. why do you care? Not local. I'm jumping right into National Politics and moving to DC.

5. Again not special. Ron Paul supporters show their true colors all by themselves. I am just brave enough to point out the craziness. And you have to admit you have crazy people in your group. I don't like the tea parties too much either, but at least they are mostly peaceful and do not want to kill our nominee. Yes a few Ron Paul supporters have urged for the assassination of Mitt Romney. I want nothing to do with people who think that moderate republicans deserve to be killed so that they can push their agenda onto others....


I am sure most of that essay that you typed was created to try to get me mad and inflict an emotional response out of me. Well, that's partially the reason I created the website in my signature. All my views about Ron Paul and his supporters can be found there. Indeed, I have even created some of those posts on threads here on ATS. They didn't receive much attention, and if it did the RP supporters dismissed it or personally attacked me instead of thinking that maybe I have made a point.

You don't want civil discussions with Republicans or Democrats. You want everyone to support Ron Paul. You are on a mission to convert as many gullible people as possible to support your candidate who isn't even the nominee for President! So before you go all "we are innocent Ron Paul supporters how dare you think something negative about us or our candidate of choice." You better look in the mirror and stop attacking Romney/Obama supporters! This is why so many people tune you out!

In case you didn't know. Welcome to US Politics! That's the name of the game. If you can't handle a little scrutiny a little bashing (this is what you call trolling) then get out of the game and allow more challenging players to take your place!

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Just because you can't read and research yourself doesn't mean we have to spell it out for you. Also just because you don't like a candidate doesn't excuse you from being ignorant of them if you want to bash them. The GOP has done everything they can to prevent Paul the candidacy. When they couldn't couldn't stop him with vote rigging they tried to change the state plurality rule, that didn't work so they started chipping away at his delegates and trying to force them into illegal contracts. This is fact not RP supporter fantasy, your ignorance of the matter doesn't change that.
It's probably a symptom of being the guy who goes along with whatever candidate is chosen for them even after it's been exposed. Never even knowing why you support them in the first place except knowing rich guys told you he could beat Obama.

I will tell you why you support Romney whether you actually know or not. You support him because you are pro war, liberal, big government, pro socialized medicine (including pro choice which I am aswell -except you support tax payers funding it), pro fiat currency (valueless currency), pro fed (indebting us to foreign citizens), pro aid via our tax money to mid east countries (including our enemies), pro a candidate that refuses (against a precedence set by his father, also a mormon) to show his taxes because he paid none. You support indfinite detention of US civilian, you are anti republican (in preference of democracy with socialistic leanings), you are anti small government and anti transparency, you are pro gun control, you are pro police state and regulation, you are pro election fraud, pro corporatist. You are anti equality, anti independence , and anti liberty. That's what you are and that's why you support who you do.

Congratulations, you will get more of the same.

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reply to post by jjf3rd77

I think there is a big difference between the support RP gets and what Romney gets.

Romney supporters are either anti-Obama or pro-Republican establishment. They vote for Romney because they think they have to.

RP supporters actually support his ideology, not blindly, and realize that their support is much more important because it takes away from the Republican/Democrat, MSM machine.

If you're not in Tampa, you have no right to criticize RP supporters for not being there. To say otherwise is hypocritical.

But in all our dealing with each other in recent times, there has been one thing I have always wondered. Are you a troll? Well, I think you finally admitted it.

2. you guys make yourselves so easy to troll.

That's not a personal attack in any way. I am simply quoting your own post.

I believe you have exposed yourself in a way that I never could have....at least we know for sure what we're dealing with.

reply to post by jjf3rd77


Everytime you reply you just contradict yourself more and more. Seriously, go back and read all of your posts in this thread, you clearly judge RP supporters for the very things you say don't matter to you, yet you have the gall to judge someone. You have the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude

I gotta say, to think my lengthy reply to you was some sort of tactic to purposely upset you I find funny. It's not often I return such a reply but your posts really do WoW me and I had a lot to respond too. You'd think you'd be happy someone gives a crap about what you're saying? And you gotta stop generalizing and putting large groups of people in the same category. Let's get something straight, I'm clearly capable of having a civil discussion, as are every poster in this thread, so don't tell us we're incapable of civility. Well, ok, not every poster is

You want everyone to support Ron Paul

This deserved it owns quote. Come on, really? Don't get upset because Ron Paul supporters are out to spread the word and add more people to the Ron Paul Revolution. But don't worry Romney people are guilty of the same thing, and so is every other candidate

You are on a mission to convert as many gullible people as possible to support your candidate who isn't even the nominee for President! So before you go all "we are innocent Ron Paul supporters how dare you think something negative about us or our candidate of choice."

I could easily say the same exact thing about you, but I know that would be silly, so I don't. Now this is a perfect example of you putting down RP supporters but thanks for the clarification that politics and mud slinging go hand in hand..... seriously, I just now learned that now.... Do you seriously believe I'm that person you described above, or worse yet, all RP supporters? Opinions are fine and dandy but just because you say it and think it doesn't mean it's true. I can handle scrutiny just fine, as long as its warranted and your comments are unwarranted, especially considering you don't hold yourself to the same standard that you demand RP supporters follow. Again, reread all of your posts in this thread. They're gold.

Now let's talk about Ron Paul and whether or not he has a large devoted following or not. The answer is yes, yes he does and you're the only one who doesn't seem to see it but I do, Ron Paul does, his fellow politicians see it, the MSM sees it, and the world sees it (if they're paying attention to American politics). Go on YouTube and pick a random Ron Paul rally from this year and tell me he doesn't have numbers. As far as Ron Paul not winning one primary via the voters, I'd say you're right, clearly, and its a great disappoint he never won 1. We could discuss the media blackout of Ron Paul, especially compared to Romney or the other guys, so Ron Paul needed his followers and his campaign people to spread the word without the help of a critical outlet, the MSM, all of them . If the MSM did have anything to say about or to Ron Paul it usually wasn't very positive and it was definitively short. So lets be honest, there's was a conspiracy against him from day 1, and that conspiracy can always go deeper. But what do we think this is, a conspiracy site or something?

Hillary Clinton Praises Ron Paul Supporters


How Does It Feel At The End Of The Line @ Ron Paul Rally In Hudsonville Michigan?


Should we being the pissing contest and compare rallies from this years primaries?

Btw, you're jumping into National politics and going all the way to Whitehouse? Sounds cool, whats your plan? Is your plan on your website?

PPS, btw, are you allowed to a link to your website in your signature? I tried linking a Bob Marley link in my sig once and it got the axe.

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by jjf3rd77

 

As far as Ron Paul not winning one primary via the voters, I'd say you're right, clearly, and its a great disappoint he never won 1.

That is not true.
He did win one.
He won the popular vote in the Virgin Islands. He also likely won Iowa, and Maine where a lot of election rigging went on, but that doesn't matter, he did in fact win the popular vote in the Virgin Islands.

I am sure our resident thread troll will tell about how it somehow means less because it's not a state, but of course it doesn't. It most likely means it wasn't rigged as it wasn't considered important (despite Paul winning the popular vote Romney managed the majority of delegates there, which is strange).