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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
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Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
The two party system is actually one party and has never been a two party system in many many decades. Craftfully and artfully the deception of a two party system having been placed in the hearts & minds of the American people to believe that they are two parties are such topics as homosexuality, abortion, guns, womens rights, the environment, schooling and medical. These are Strawman topics that are there to divide and foster an illusion of a two party system that has really never been in most everyones lifetime. In reality every person has such differing views on each one of these topics but which every group you side more with then this is the deciding factor on who you will vote for. Pretty much why we are split down the center in this country. The real issues of today become fully sidetracked and covered over like National Security, Constitutional Law, Freedoms, Taxes and etc. These are the topics that the Government wants you to simply leave up to them because after all "they do know what's better for you and your children".
As long as we believe MAN rules then we will continue as a race to stay divided. There is a better Covenant however.... one that unites and is has not been twisted by religions over the last 20+ centuries. That Covenant will be revealed in our lifetime so there is hope! It is one that does not stone homosexuals, adulterers and disobedient children. It is a Covenant that does not approve of child sacrifice and it is a Covenant that has not had hundreds of extra laws added to it as in our own government. Twelve Laws that keep it simple and real...
Originally posted by betheflow
Guys, unless I am completely off in my views on this (please feel free to point out my errors, with facts not opinions please), if we are NOT up for changing our constitution and the Republic our founding fathers gave us, we HAVE to stop talking about the popular vote as far as presidents are concerned! Our Republic was NEVER meant to be a democracy! EVER!
The founding fathers abhorred democracy/mob rule, and they explicitly said so on many different occasions. The whole original system was set up to completely avoid mob rule. In the case of the presidency the electoral college is the way they guaranteed the mob would not rule. Only a handful of highly qualified men (hopefully) per state would cast their vote for the president and whoever came in second was the vice-president PERIOD. So it was with Washington, Adams, Jefferson etc... why do you think the constitutionally aware RP posse concentrated all their efforts on electing delegates that were RP supporters. Because EVERY delegate is meant to vote their conscious. This debate of bound or unbound delegates is a modern fallacy. I am not quite sure when the fakery started but unless, again, we want to change what our founding fathers gave us, we have to stop calling the US a democracy. IT IS NOT (kinda makes everyone that buys into the tagline that we have been spreading democracy to the world via our intervention policies and wars completely and utterly foolish). We would have the candidates from all parties (Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Tea-Party, Occupy etc...) get same air time and have the same amount of public funding and REAL debates so that the people know exactly who they are on where they stand and the delegates who are elected can make their decision and justify their decision to the people of their state. If they get it wrong next time or choose to go against the popular sentiment of their state they may not be a delegate next time. Then the people would HAVE to concentrate in electing the RIGHT people for Congress and the Senate (again, another way the founding fathers set to stop mob rule, a few men from each state will be making and voting on laws, policies and measures). And since the Executive, Legislative and the Judiciary were meant to have equal power and serve as a check and balance to each other they guarantee no mob rule and they guarantee not one group will take over everything (at least in theory). Of course nowadays we exult the Executive above all others, The House and Senate are a mess because we have been indoctrinated to only care about the presidential vote and the Judiciary has been delegated a role of subserviency and back-up to the Executive. Now, we have all the lobbyists tie the noose around everyone involved in all 3 branches and we have the worst nightmare of the founding fathers. A small group who controls everything, not to mention a private "central bank" aka The FED, which for the exception of Hamilton, was the biggest no no for most of our founding fathers, so much so that Jefferson famously prophesied:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson -- The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill, (1809)