Haqqani leader 'killed' by NATO drone, page 2


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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 01:52 AM by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to
post by Connman



They were with him.

If they are of a certain age and gender that may be acceptable, but if we are speaking of a man's wife and pre-teen children....
Where else would you expect them to be?


Then the fault is his. He endangered them. Would you do that to your loved ones? I wouldn't. It is sad, but the fault lies with the guilty party.


reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 02:07 AM by Panic2k11
reply to post by ErroneousDylan



I do not think that the US coordinates drone activities inside Pakistan within NATO. This makes it so that it was not a NATO drone that did the killing but a US drone and ultimately the sole responsibility / credit is to the US.
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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 04:21 AM by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Panic2k11



The US does not acknowledge drone use. NATO is the only ones capable, which really means the US, but that is conjecture.


reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 05:52 AM by baruch60610
reply to post by ErroneousDylan



I think it's safe to say that eventually Americans will be threatened by whatever weapons they develop. A simple reason for this is "karma." If you don't believe in karma, then figure that greedy arms dealers will sell the weapons to whoever has the money for them, even if those people happen to be enemies of the US and plan to use the weapons against them. It seems to me that the US itself more or less condones this, though I can't quite understand the logic there... they'd rather these guys make money, even if it threatens Americans? But as far as I can tell, it's true.

Killing civilians is often unavoidable these days. War has become highly technological, and weapons so far cannot distinguish between soldiers and non-combatants. Also, the civilians themselves often become combatants for various reasons, making things even more muddled.

Maybe some day we'll learn how to talk out our differences, instead of killing over them. But considering how vicious even political discussions can get, that's probably not going to happen any time soon...


reply posted on 3-9-2012 @ 06:28 AM by baruch60610
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to
post by ErroneousDylan


The what network? Some other conjured up group.

They can now "legally" assassinate American citizens, who cares about some random "brown guy"?

Its the perfect plan: create more enemies in order to justify endless military spending.

Never ending cycle of spending and killing. Makes one proud to be an American.

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Actually, the ideal way to make money is to get two non-US countries fighting, and sell just enough arms to each side to balance whatever the other side had, so that no one ever has a clear advantage. Kind of like how we did with Iran and Iraq.

I don't know who's doing what, but I'm pretty sure that we folks here at ATS don't have an effing clue what's going on. That *some* conspiracy exists, sure. But that it's any of the ones we've mentioned here? Not too likely. And even if it is - *which* one? If the truth is here somewhere, it's buried under tons of horse manure and no one will ever find it. It's better than locking it in a steel vault.
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