Michelle Obama's New School Lunches Are A Flop

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posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Nucleardiver
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I never said she was a dictator, I said she was dictating.....big difference. I remember my father on many occasions dictating a letter to his secretary so she could type it out, so did that make him a dictator? I dictate to my children what time to be home at night so am I a dictator?

No. But I can tell that you are the type of person that will twist something someone says around in an attempt to make it fit your agenda and I won't be party to that. I made a point that the government is treading where it doesn't belong based of our founding principles of limited government and sadly you try and blow my statement out of proportion.

If you are okay with an ever increasingly intrusive government then please feel free to move to any of the numerous fascist didctatorships in the world. As for me I choose to live in freedom from intrusive government and prefer to live with limited government as was prescribed under the constitution. If I want to go out in my pasture and gather cow patties and make a big batch of cow patty stew every night to dinner, that's my right regardless of the health consequences. This is my body and no one owns it but me and I wil not allow someone to tell me what I can and cannot ingest into it.


When has Michell Obama told you that you are not allowed to feed cow patty stew to your kids, or any other crap food for that matter?


I see no answer to my question. This tells me you are either sadly ignorant or deliberately lying. If you are ignorant, let me educate you: Michelle Obama has done NOTHING to force you to ingest anything, or to forbid you ingesting anything. You are free to eat cow manure. And if you are deliberately lying, then I've called you out on your lie.




posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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Yes, because the obesity epidemic means that the parents are doing a great job!


All you are hearing is the grumbling of children's stomaches shrinking and grease withdrawel.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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I can say Ive never looked at any of the First Wives bodies and summed them up based off that.. And anyone who does, should just keep their ignorant opinion in their mouth. Michelle Obama, love her or hate her, is a beautiful woman, with a very healthy physique. And even if none of that was true, she is not the one who is an elected official.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Nucleardiver
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I never said she was a dictator, I said she was dictating.....big difference. I remember my father on many occasions dictating a letter to his secretary so she could type it out, so did that make him a dictator? I dictate to my children what time to be home at night so am I a dictator?

No. But I can tell that you are the type of person that will twist something someone says around in an attempt to make it fit your agenda and I won't be party to that. I made a point that the government is treading where it doesn't belong based of our founding principles of limited government and sadly you try and blow my statement out of proportion.

If you are okay with an ever increasingly intrusive government then please feel free to move to any of the numerous fascist didctatorships in the world. As for me I choose to live in freedom from intrusive government and prefer to live with limited government as was prescribed under the constitution. If I want to go out in my pasture and gather cow patties and make a big batch of cow patty stew every night to dinner, that's my right regardless of the health consequences. This is my body and no one owns it but me and I wil not allow someone to tell me what I can and cannot ingest into it.


When has Michell Obama told you that you are not allowed to feed cow patty stew to your kids, or any other crap food for that matter?


I see no answer to my question. This tells me you are either sadly ignorant or deliberately lying. If you are ignorant, let me educate you: Michelle Obama has done NOTHING to force you to ingest anything, or to forbid you ingesting anything. You are free to eat cow manure. And if you are deliberately lying, then I've called you out on your lie.


Lying about what?

I see that since I disagree with you and didn't answer in what you perceive to be a timely fashion you are now sinking to the low of personal attacks and name calling. Now I see why you are defending Michelle so adamantly, you share the same condescending attitude as she does.

Normally when someone makes a personal attack on me I ignore them but since you are obviously incapable of doing your own research Ill provide you some links to your question.

School lunches to follow Michelle Obamas healthy lunch guidelines

Michelle Obama: School lunches to have more veggies....

President Obama signs Healthy, hungry free lunch act

Congress approves $4.5 billion Child Nutrition Act, mirrors Michelle Obamas fight against childhood obesity

Obama signs School Lunch Law- and maintains marital bliss

Michelle Obama's school lunch bill passes

Michelle Obama's child nutrition bill clears congress

I had to work so I couldn't reply to you fast enough. I could ASSume as you did, that you don't know about the responsibilities of work, however unlike you I don't ASSume because well, it makes you look like those first 3 letters in the word.

So here's plenty of links for you to read about Michelle lobbying to change what kids eat at school (mandating what a person eats since you can't make the connection between the two) and therefore is in fact telling people what to eat.

For the record I don't feed my children junk. We have a farm and large garden and eat our own organically grown vegetables and beef as well as deer, elk, fresh fish, pheasant, partridge, grouse, duck, goose, and farm raised chicken and eggs. We don't eat fast food, ever and only go to Bismarck once a month to go out to eat. My children (2 sons 14 and 15) eat very healthy and are in great shape. One's 6'2" and weighs 180lbs the other is 5'8" and weighs 160lbs. Now they complain that they are starving an hour after lunch at school so they take MRE's to lunch to supplement their lunch.

Not all children are obese from eating either, some have hormonal disorders that cause obesity, others just aren't active enough, in fact that is the highest issue not so much food.

However I am sure you will reply with another insulting argumentative reply since I don't agree with you.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Nucleardiver

Lying about what?

I see that since I disagree with you and didn't answer in what you perceive to be a timely fashion you are now sinking to the low of personal attacks and name calling. Now I see why you are defending Michelle so adamantly, you share the same condescending attitude as she does.

Normally when someone makes a personal attack on me I ignore them but since you are obviously incapable of doing your own research Ill provide you some links to your question.

School lunches to follow Michelle Obamas healthy lunch guidelines

Michelle Obama: School lunches to have more veggies....

President Obama signs Healthy, hungry free lunch act

Congress approves $4.5 billion Child Nutrition Act, mirrors Michelle Obamas fight against childhood obesity

Obama signs School Lunch Law- and maintains marital bliss

Michelle Obama's school lunch bill passes

Michelle Obama's child nutrition bill clears congress

I had to work so I couldn't reply to you fast enough. I could ASSume as you did, that you don't know about the responsibilities of work, however unlike you I don't ASSume because well, it makes you look like those first 3 letters in the word.

So here's plenty of links for you to read about Michelle lobbying to change what kids eat at school (mandating what a person eats since you can't make the connection between the two) and therefore is in fact telling people what to eat.

For the record I don't feed my children junk. We have a farm and large garden and eat our own organically grown vegetables and beef as well as deer, elk, fresh fish, pheasant, partridge, grouse, duck, goose, and farm raised chicken and eggs. We don't eat fast food, ever and only go to Bismarck once a month to go out to eat. My children (2 sons 14 and 15) eat very healthy and are in great shape. One's 6'2" and weighs 180lbs the other is 5'8" and weighs 160lbs. Now they complain that they are starving an hour after lunch at school so they take MRE's to lunch to supplement their lunch.

Not all children are obese from eating either, some have hormonal disorders that cause obesity, others just aren't active enough, in fact that is the highest issue not so much food.

However I am sure you will reply with another insulting argument.


I see no mandates. I see free and subsidized meals for children whose parents can't afford to provide lunches. Of course, those free meals provided by the government aren't going to be crap food, not if Michelle has anything to do with it. And how is this a bad thing that the free food provided is healthy food? It may be the only food some kids get all day long. What's wrong with it being healthy? Any parent can provide food of their own instead, just as you have done. No one has told you that you can't. None of those links say that children aren't allowed to bring their own food. Because my daughter is extremely picky, I have been providing her with a lunch from home since Kindergarten - and yes, it's a healthy lunch, but it's food that I know she'll eat. And no one is telling me I can't. We have ALWAYS only had two choices when it comes to school lunches - eat whatever the school provides, or bring your own. Nothing Michelle has done has changed that, except to make the school choice a little healthier.

So tell me again how Michelle is mandating what your children eat?



posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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The fiasco builds:




Complaints Mount Against Michelle Obama’s New Lunch Menu

In Wisconsin, high school athletes are complaining about not getting enough to eat each day, due to the skimpy new school lunch menu mandated by the United States Department of Agriculture and First Lady Michelle Obama.
The story we published earlier this week on that subject is unfortunately not unique. Students across the country are complaining about the new school lunch regulations.

Perhaps the real motive is to starve students into slimming down. Just ask students in Pierre, South Dakota who, too, are in an all-out revolt.

"I know a lot of my friends who are just drinking a jug of milk for their lunch. And they are not getting a proper meal," middle school student Samantha Gortmaker told Keloland.com.
Despite the fact that the new regulations have increased the cost of a lunch 20 to 25 cents per plate, it’s not pleasing students.

Some are throwing away their vegetables while others are adapting to the rules by becoming industrious. In New Bedford, Massachusetts, students have created a black market - for chocolate syrup. The kiddie capitalists are smuggling in bottles of it and selling it by the squeeze, according to SouthCoastToday.com.
Nancy Carvalho, director of food services for New Bedford Public Schools, was quoted as saying that hummus and black bean salads have been tough sells in elementary cafeterias. That means even smaller children are going through the day fighting hunger pains, which can never be considered a good thing.

One government official tried to put the blame on the students.

"One thing I think we need to keep in mind as kids say they're still hungry is that many children aren't used to eating fruits and vegetables at home, much less at school. So it's a change in what they are eating. If they are still hungry, it's that they are not eating all the food that's being offered," USDA Deputy Undersecretary Janey Thornton was quoted as saying.

Ms. Thornton just put her finger on the problem. The government is trying to impose a new diet that children are not accustomed to. It’s not reasonable to expect them to either eat what the government deems healthy or go hungry.
Many will opt to go hungry, and that’s the government’s fault.


Well done.
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posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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The kid's at my son's school have mostly resorted to carrying their lunch from home. It's the kids from poor families that are really hurting here at this point. If they get free or reduced price lunch, the parents aren't going to pay for them to carry lunch instead.
My son has given portions of his carried lunch to one such child who honestly didn't like the lunch at all that day and would have not eaten at all if he had to get by with what was offered. This poor kid had to eat the school offered breakfast too, so if it was bad, he was going all day without a good meal. How do they expect them to get through the day?
I think they should have eased more gently into reform, but the cafeteria ladies say that next year will be even worse, as the second phase of the change starts then.



posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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Centralized planning at its finest.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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Before the end of this past school year, I was a public school teacher. The school lunch program is a federal thing and they are made to follow certain strict guidelines. Apparently, my district received national awards for going the healthly lunch route a few years earlier than most. What does that mean?

Way back when, each school had cooks that prepared the food. It was actually pretty good stuff back in the day- and obesity wasn't a huge issue then. I suspect it was the same way everywhere in the country- and you could verify this by simply pulling out old yearbooks.

Fast forward to current times, and we have satellite lunches. All of the food is pre-prepared in a central kitchen and shipped to all of the schools in the district. It is seriously nasty stuff to chow down on. I know because I often found myself buying school lunches out of convenience, considering I only had twenty minutes to eat and had to supervise lunch detentions every day. The schools in my district have had small portions and no extras of any kind, including no soda machines, for a few years now.

The end result is a lot of wasted food. Considering that most students in most schools in my district are on free and reduced lunch, that means that they don't bring lunches from home. The kids who regularly bring lunches tend to come from higher income families. Kids will go through the line, get food, attempt to eat it, make horrible faces, and then not eat it. Sure, they ALL complain of hunger. However, most won't choose to eat unless they're truly desperate. Breakfast tends to be easier to handle and screw up- so more kids will eat that and skip lunch altogether. These kids come in two types- extremely scrawny and obese. Both are the end result of poor nutrition that needs to be fixed on the home end. I'm sure that there has to be a better way to fix healthy food that isn't nasty and is filling.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by stonebutterfly
These lunches don't sound bad. And portion control is essential to being healthy. We eat extra large portions as Americans, cause we think eating till you pop is right. The sad thing is our kids are so used to eating junk and sugar they cant handle a decent meal. I mean really people are complaining that schools are feeding their kids healthier? Oh dear, lets just go buy crud and fill them up till they puke with it. An unhealthy lifestyle needs time to adjust to the new healthy items. So now Ms Obama is terrible for not shoving Little Debbie cakes and grease into their unhealthy butts?
Evil Obamas and their SPINACH!


You must have missed the part of the post that said highschoolers get the same portions as kindergarten! Yes, they are going to be hungry! They are at a huge growth spurt as highschoolers. They need to eat more.

Main point however is that mrs obama doesnt practice what she preaches! In addition to the govt has NO BUSINESS interfering with the decisions of parents and what they feed them.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by pajoly
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The French spend less than $2/day per child for food and each meal is a complete four course hot meal presided over by a local chef and uses all fresh ingredients, lots of herbs and seasonal vegetables.


But the French are socialists, and from what you are saying I do suspect they are actually communists! We can't follow these cruel practices, feeding the kids so cheaply and with such quality. Remember, the government should never meddle in people's lives, get the government out of my kid's greasy sugar saturated POS lunch.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Komaratzi11
The truth is government regulation is never going to end obesity for children or anyone else for that matter. People are growing tired of the endless involvement of government in their personal business. Almost every parent that complained at the store blamed Michelle Obama for this mess. Whether Mrs. Obama acted alone or not, her face IS the face of this mess. She owns it and I wonder how it will affect her husband at the voting booth?


I'm sorry to say that, but your town does not count many smart people among its citizens. I would agree that it's the family who's at the forefront of taking care of their kids, feeding them, educating them and making sure they are all right. Now tell me how it's the Government's fault that the American youths are overweight, prone to diabetes and basically heading towards self-destruction, given the trend?

How can anyone blame Obamas for trying to improve the situation? What did these people, who complain so much, do to make school food healthier?

Why is it a big deal that they are now fixing the lunch for their kids themselves? Was it not a good idea to start with? And why are they aren't cooking themselves, but buying processed foods for their kids in a "small grocery store"?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Regarding the quality of food:

Michelle Obama does not cook it. Whatever food comes into your schools is arranged by your local school district. You vote for this people before you vote for Obama. If you can't fix things at the local level, you have no business complaining about federal government.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Nucleardiver
IMHO anyone who thinks its okay for government to tell a person what to do, eat, wear, think, or act just because it creates a false sense of safety in no way values their liberty or has a clue what true freedom actually is. Part of being free is being free to engage in dangerous, unsafe, and unhealthy behavior it is therefore your responsibility to make the correct choices that will ensure your well being.


I've done my part of "dangerous, unsafe, and unhealthy behavior". Heck, I still engage in same once in a while. What I know is this: Michelle Obama doesn't pack my kid's lunch. I do. And I do a good job of that. Nobody took away that freedom, and your point is moot.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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So, they've got enough money to play sports, but not to bring their own food? Should fat kids get double portions, too?



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
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So, they've got enough money to play sports, but not to bring their own food? Should fat kids get double portions, too?


Hit the nail on the head. I see people dressed in "licensed" gear (which means $$) who are eagerly inquiring about free lunches at school. It takes 5 minutes and a dollar to fix a kid's lunch, and maybe 7 minutes and $1.19 to fix a healthy one. Am I p!ssed at these people? You bet.

I know that the times are super tough, but if you can't earn an extra $1 to feed your kid, don't blame Michelle Obama for you being thick.



posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Pipebomb24875
Gonna play Devil's advocate. Is there any real difference if it's Michelle's lunch, or the school's old lunch? One's healthier but less filling/appetizing, the other's pink slime. Is packing a lunch too much of a hassle if the issue is that important to you?


I remember when I was in grade/high school in the mid 60's to late 70's... The dreaeded "lunchladies" were at school each morning preparing the days lunch. Everyone got the samd thing thing on those rectangle plates with the square compartments. "Choice"? HA!
Thing is, we were all starved by the time lunch came because it all smelled so good. They COOKED! Real ingredients in the oven. Giant mixers, stoves and ovens going all morning then served up hot. No microwaved crap. The food was good and there was a lot of it. We could even get seconds if we sweet talked the lunchlady!
Now it's just low-fat Michelle Obama approved crap. How sad.
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posted on Sep, 25 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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You gloss over the poorer kids who can afford nether.


Evidence of some abuse is not evidence of all abuse of the system.
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posted on Sep, 26 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Loam,

you call it a "fiasco". And I assume that by that you mean it's Michelle Obama's fiasco. But read again what you quoted.

The kids are bringing bottle of chocolate syrup to school. Are you serious calling it Obama's fiasco? Don't you think it's the parents' abject failure to exercise reasonable control over their kids diet? It's really just beyond my mental capacity how one can celebrate consumption of chocolate syrup instead of veggies as some kind of manifestation of freedom. It's a manifestation of being backward and dumb, and on your way to obesity (for which America is famous) and diabetes which is now an epidemic. It's also a manifestation of failed parenthood. I get it -- it's easy for some dumb f**k lazy parents to feed any crap to their kids, including chocolate syrup. It really is easy, I know because I'm a parent, but we never do it. We prefer what's right, even though it may be more difficult.

And when Michelle calls you out on your failure as a parent, you are very unhappy. And somehow all is her fault. Duh.

Regarding poor kids: please calculate the cost of a couple of boiled carrots. I refuse to take the argument that no one can afford it as serious.
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posted on Sep, 27 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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