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Originally posted by tinfoilman
reply to post by sled735
Do still cameras, video cameras, thermal cameras, and audio recorders also have their "third eye" open? If not, then how can we explain when ghosts show up on these devices?
Obviously it's not about your third eye. The ghost is just there. That's why they're picked up on electronic devices also.
I used to be into paranormal research ages ago. I've studied pretty much every class of haunting and heard just about every ghost story in multiple forms. So, here's what I'm bringing to the conversation.
There's many misconceptions that people make. One is that ghosts are a hallucination or a trick of the mind, or that only "special" people can see/hear them. This just isn't true.
Originally posted by JustSlowlyBackAway
As far as FLIR cameras go, they measure temperature and anomalous manifestations often are associated with physical, measurable temperature drops or raises in pockets with no explanation. A FLIR camera will record these temperature anomalies as shapes. It is a physical thing that this device is able to record.
Originally posted by tinfoilman
reply to post by JustSlowlyBackAway
Well first of all, I'm not saying psychics don't exist. We had one on the team. What I'm saying is that cameras actually do see ghosts by just picking up light and that's all that's needed. It's odd you haven't see that much video that convinces you.
When we recorded we get all kinds of things on video. Rarely but if you record enough you still get a lot of weird footage.
Another thing is like I said in my other posts. Yes mass sightings are rare. But we found out why they're rare. It's because 99% of hauntings happen when the person is alone. Or someone is looking the wrong way. What we actually found is that when you do actually have multiple witnesses they all see it.
But ghosts themselves show up rarely. Humans don't see them that often either. So don't make the bias mistake of thinking humans see ghosts more so they must see them differently. That's actually based on a false premise. Neither the camera nor humans sees ghosts that often.
What I found is that most people typically have on average 1 experience in their entire lifetime. You shouldn't compare normal people to the stuff we all know us ATSers have seen lol.
So, yes, while it's true that cameras rarely pick up ghosts, that's simply because it's just rare to see a ghost. Not because there's something special about the camera.
And I understand there are people that think they see ghosts all the time. But in our investigations those situations were always explained by other things like high EMF, infrasound, small carbon monoxide leaks, toxic chemicals not stored properly in the house, drug addiction, someone in the family is sick, and things like that. 99% of the time when the problem is removed those people stop seeing ghosts.
Now I understand that there are psychic people out there. But guess what? Psychics don't call you out for an investigation. Psychics are already used to seeing ghosts. By the time you get sent to investigate someone's house it's because the stupid house is doing something stupid virtually every time. The reason they're calling you is because they're NOT psychic and they're scared.
Many times, it's not a ghost at all! Like I said, the whole point of me raining on everyone's parade is to save lives. The last thing we need is people that don't know what they're doing not doing tests and instead telling parents that their little girl has super powers. When it very well could be a carbon monoxide leak that you didn't test for and everyone wakes up dead tomorrow.
Now I understand that's rare. It's usually just EMF readings, but it just takes that ONE TIME. So, if you want to tell someone their little girl has three eyes, fine. But do ALL THE OTHER TESTS FIRST! Make sure they're safe first.
And when I have done that? I've never gotten to the end of my list before finding something. I've never once had to tell the parents their little girl has three eyes.edit on 26-8-2012 by tinfoilman because: (no reason given)edit on 26-8-2012 by tinfoilman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ztruthseeker
So you die. You find out first hand that you exist now on some ethereal or spirit level. You have contact with the earth and the living. Instead of using this discovery and going to some scientists and saying "hey scientists, im a ghost. Do some studies and tests on me. Try to understand what this is all about". No, that doesnt happen. Instead Im going to go to some creepy old house, and open and close doors, tap on windows, rattle some chains, and move chairs around; all for the goal of scaring the crap out of some crazy old lady, who no one will believe anyways.
If ghosts exist, they are the biggest trolls ever.