Pastor who "kicked" Holy Spirit into woman banned from UK! Religious discrimination?

Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by halfoldman

 

The USA has no-fly lists for people they merely suspect of being anti-federal government, and you think the UK is being harsh stopping a guy with a criminal history?

This is not about religion. It's stated that this is because of his criminal record. Numerous countries do this all the time.

Why is this any worse than the USA banning people based on their political opinions? If one of those on an American no-fly list happens to be Christian too, is it fair to say it's religious persecution?

I agree. It's unlikely I'd be allowed into America with my criminal record (for much less than Mr. Jesus here) and given our one-sided visa/immigration/extradition treaties with the USA, it's good to see this nutjobs like this being turned away.

In terms of 'bull# takes on Chritianity' this Pastor is fairly low down on the list of priorities anyway. African charismatic churches accusing kids of witchcraft and then abusing/murdering them is the real problem. Yet, considering the lack of condemnation (or even interest) from other Christian denominations, you'd think it wasn't a problem at all. I made a few threads and posts on this a few years ago, and the lack of interest - on a site that then had a large (and vocal) Christian demographic - was bewildering. Or perhaps not.

Originally posted by pirhanna
I think this video sums it up nicely

I would go to this event just to keep standing after he hit me. I bet he would shout out BACK YOU DEMON!!!

reply to post by OwenGP185



You should go not Benny Hinn but go to a pentecostal service, I have seen some extreme and weird things happen and I have witnessed non believers experience the power, it is an interesting experience,

But about the pastor kicking a women in the face, I wouldn't let that guy near me.

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by OwenGP185

 

You should go not Benny Hinn but go to a pentecostal service, I have seen some extreme and weird things happen and I have witnessed non believers experience the power, it is an interesting experience,

Problem is it only works on people conditioned to think it works, when someone totally out of the loop steps in then things are different.

*Just in case it is not obvious the Kai master would have been pushing around his students like they are made of dust, all because they have such conviction in there masters power lol.*

reply to post by OwenGP185



No, I have seen it happen to people that had no clue.

You would be surprised.

It was years ago when i first witnessed the holy laughter stuff, I am happy for the experience, I like to see things for myself, as long as people are not harming anyone,

But there were also times when I was terrified, I never fully understood the feeling of terror that would come over me, I prefer peace.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by OwenGP185

 

No, I have seen it happen to people that had no clue.

You would be surprised.

It was years ago when i first witnessed the holy laughter stuff, I am happy for the experience, I like to see things for myself, as long as people are not harming anyone,

But there were also times when I was terrified, I never fully understood the feeling of terror that would come over me, I prefer peace.

Well I will always respect people who care about peace, but these pastors are not peaceful in my opinion. Plus GOD himself does not seem to be peaceful considering the amount of people and animals he has supposedly killed. Anyway peace is good but I will always remain skeptical of those Pastors.

I love all these random videos








it just proves that this is all bullcrap

You should read the history of the pentecostal movement, it is really interesting,

www.revival-library.org...

But then you have to wonder what went on in the upper room,


www.biblegateway.com...

reply to post by OwenGP185


I have seen the movement change, but I remember reading books about old time revivals, they could get pretty wild,

But this new movement with the hitting and kicking I never seen this before.

Little pentecostal churches I have attended, were wonderful people with the exuberance of joy, you just can't wipe the smile off your face when you are in their services.

I think of it this way, people laugh and dance and cheer at a football game or a rock concert, why shouldn't they be celebrating their faith?

I have attended so many different churches, it is pretty hard for me to sit at one where everyone looks bored once you have been to a pentecostal service where everyone is dancing for joy.

And David and all the house of Israel played before the Lord on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.

And David danced before the Lord with all his might;