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Casey Anthony's probation ends a midnight tonight

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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:03 AM
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What the hell does that matter? I said that she is guilty of something, but not murder.
It isn't murder. That is what we are talking about here.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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Do you know how many mothers pretend to be "GENUINE" just to collect a WIC check?.....



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:07 AM
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Again.. completely irrelevent as she wasn't collecting WIC. It was just a home video, what is your reason for trying to demonize her?



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:09 AM
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Its called compare and contrast, I am comparing Casey Anthony to whom you think was a genuine mother to someone who pretends to be a mother just to get what they want....Technically they are horrible mothers.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Therefore she would be innocent of murder (not that it was ever proven a murder occurred).



NO, not innocent, found not guilty. there is a HUGE difference.

And..

While caylee was "missing"( dead ), Casey was doing this...





Yup terribly broken up. maybe she was with that nanny at the time.



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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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It matters because she killed her daughter. You can call it what ever you want, she killed her daughter. Her actions caused her daughter to die. You've said so yourself. it was most likely neglect.

It's called personal responsibility. Her choices lead directly to the death of her daughter.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Whoa is that Jamie Foxx in the first photo?


I mean would a genuine mother want to party with someone who looked like Jamie Foxx?....
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:34 AM
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Christ.. I am not talk about the verdict. I said if it was a case of neglect, which is most likely, the she would be innocent of murder. You argued that it was still her fault, but it doesn't change that she would be innocent of murder. Also, I saw those pics on nancy grace, but I don't recall them being used in the trial much. Are you certain they weren't taken prior to the death?



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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Are you certain they weren't taken prior to the death?


Does it matter? Even if those were taken before, during, or after. Do you still see her as the genuine mother you claim to see her as? You're confused...Seriously



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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No, that's stupid. There is a difference between doing something dumb that results in death and intentionally killing someone. If she left her in a car with a/c running which would not have killed her but is a bad idea and things happened to alter that environment that casey never would have expected or left her daughter to, you can't say its even remotely the same.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:41 AM
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Yes.. are you serious? She's dancing at a club like a million other young people. She's not doing porn. She's an adult. I bet you have looked at porn, along with most males and GASP fathers! Doesn't make them any less fatherly. Two different worlds.

And it does very much matter. If people are saying that was after the death it would have immplication.. they say she partied and show those pics. If those aren't from the same time it matters. What if you saw her after the death at a party and she was sitting on a couch not active or dancinf, subdued, it would show a mental toll and that she was grieving.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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There is a difference between doing something dumb that results in death and intentionally killing someone. If she left her in a car with a/c running which would not have killed her but is a bad idea and things happened to alter that environment that casey never would have expected or left her daughter to, you can't say its even remotely the same.


OK, regardless of what you just said....I can't believe this but awwww damn....Even if Casey was to leave her daughter in the car that was supposedly accidental?....What was it for? I got two different things, she could of been the caring genuine mother you claim she was and ran into the store out of breathe just to get medicine for her daughter?....Nah, that scenario is out....Now a booty call?........



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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That scenario is not out. She could have just run in a store. Depending on the heat 15 to 30 minutes could do it and that's not a lot of time.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Ok, unless she was like a Leonard Shelby, and had a short memory span I am sure if she knew what she was running into a store for, that she would of been more hastily about it...It wouldn't take 15 mins to 30 mins...Now your estimating.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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First, I don;t think I have ever watched Nancy Grace. Shows like hers don't interest me in the least as all she does is sensationalize people who deserve no attention what so ever. I do hear she talks about missing children a lot though, so I suppose that's good, despite the fact that she turns it into a circus and is profiting off those poor kids disappearances.

Secondly, since you asked earlier whether I need the definition of murder posted for to understand it. I understand quite well what it means in the legal vernacular. You keep mentioning innoncent. You're aware that the jury didin't find her innocent but not guilty right? There is a huge difference in that very same legal sense that you were so eager to use to define murder. Casey was found not guilty, meaning that the state didn't prove, "beyond a reasonable doubt" that she murdered Caylee with premeditation.

Maybe you should have a look at this....

www.oregoncriminalattorney.com...

and stop making judgements by emotion and use logic. You have said your self Caylee's death was caused by Casey's neglect. That's admitting that you believe she caused her daughters death. She isn't innocent. Not by a long shot.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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No you aren't getting it. At some point around the time her daughter died her car ran out of gas in a parking lot. I am suggesting that she wasn't so hasty because she left thhe air conditiong running. If the car ran out of gas she wouldn't know that she left her daughter in a car that was quickly becoming a hot box. It really wouldn't take long for a toddler to succumb to the florida heat in june.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Apparently you need to read back over our conversation. I am aware of the difference of innocent and not guilty. We, however, weren't talking about what did happen, but rather what she would be guilty of had it been an accident. You are mixing u the conversation.

If you go to my first few posts you will see I said."she is guilty but not of murder" that is what we are talking about.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:31 AM
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Yes you did initially, then it changed. Sometimes in the same post.

Not her fault

Nope. Most likely she didn't kill her kid, also you can't determine what kind of personality she has.


her fault

You are right, she is guilty, but not of murder.


Not her fault

Honestly I think she left her daughter in the car, the car ran out of gas and the little girl heat stroked without air conditioning. That is what I honestly think happened and have pieced together from the trial.


Her fault

If he came out and said her daughter died from neglect she would have gone to jail (as i am sure she knew especially with a cop dad) so she covered it up.


Not her fault

If it's 100- 120 degrees in a car and the air conditioning goes out it doesn't take long. It was a stupid mistake made by a dumb young woman.


Her fault

I said that she is guilty of something, but not murder.
It isn't murder. That is what we are talking about here.


Not her fault

If she left her in a car with a/c running which would not have killed her but is a bad idea and things happened to alter that environment that casey never would have expected or left her daughter to, you can't say its even remotely the same.


Even you think, ( I think, it keeps changing ) that she is responsible for that little girls death and then tried to cover it up. She isn't innocent of murder, she is not guilty by a jury of her peers.

One simple question so we can be on even ground here...

Can you agree that her actions caused Caylee's death and that after Caylee was dead, she tried to hide her death.

I'll leave the other stuff out for right now, lets just get that cleared up.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by mcsandy

Your approach of dialogue lacks conjecture nor is it relevant to my OP. You are opposing my feelings as a mother which leads me to believe you are not a parent and can not fathom the experience, and quite possibly may have not ever have experienced a human tragedy or birth of a child. Actually for that matter you seem quite naive, I wasn't speaking in literal terms. Spare yourself and pick a topic/subject/forum where you may draw from your own personal experiences; or better yet actually give better commentary in efforts to create fluid dialogue.
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It was relevant to your OP as it directly addressed a statement you made in it. Also, there really wasn't much else put forth in your OP to discuss. What it basically said was, Casey Anthony is still alive and kicking even though her life should be in shambles because her child died. I saw it on Nancy Grace and I think shes an attention whore. Zero substance. LOL. Anywho, I don't have to be a parent to understand that "normal" people do not die or lose the will to go on with life because a child dies, lol. Are you sure you didn't mean it literally?


I am still in awe of how a mother could just go on about life when your child is no longer there to walk with you.


Everything you said in your OP seems to be driving to the conclusion that the death of a child is the end of the world for parent, it is not. Thats all im saying. You were being super over dramatic and its not a good way to start any type of discussion.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 05:19 AM
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It's quite terrifying that Nancy Grace used to be an actual prosecutor.



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