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Catholic Cardinal to pray at Republican convention

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Cardinal Timothy Dolan will give the benediction at the Republican convention.....


The most senior US Catholic leader is to give a benediction at the Republican National Convention next week in Florida when Mitt Romney accepts the party's presidential nomination.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan will give prayers at the televised event, Mr Romney said in an interview.

The cardinal is suing President Barack Obama over his healthcare plans.

But the cardinal's office says the appearance will not be an endorsement for Mr Romney.
- from BBC

Yeah....right.......RCC & GOP share a lot of reactionary ideas about how to keep the population in line and are both bulwarks of the supposed NWO.........perhaps they think their plans are far along enough to make a public acknowledgement of their relationship??

Can't help but think that the "real" religious nutjobs of theocratic fringe won't like to see the RCC given prominence tho - a Catholic blessing a Mormon presidential candidate?? surely a marriage made in hell???




posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Plenty of very liberal Catholics buddy. Just ask Nancy Pelosi.... Or a certain former Cardinal from Chicago...Cardinal Joseph Bernardin... Obama knew him very well



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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I love it when Lefties bash the Church it makes me giddy as a school girl.
What is really funny is that you think the Republican Party and what you see of the blessed Holy Roman Catholic Church are reactionary. I do say my good man, do not venture into my part of the net... you will be seeing theocrats under your bed for weeks!



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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Everybody thinks that Catholic teachings are about nothing but sex, sex and more sex (mostly about how you're not supposed to have any
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What many people fail to realize is that the Church also has official teachings on social issues that run more in line with Liberal thinking...


Option for the Poor and Vulnerable

A basic moral test is how our most vulnerable members are faring. In a society marred by deepening divisions between rich and poor, our tradition recalls the story of the Last Judgment (Mt 25:31-46) and instructs us to put the needs of the poor and vulnerable first.

The Dignity of Work and the Rights of Workers

The economy must serve people, not the other way around. Work is more than a way to make a living; it is a form of continuing participation in Gods creation. If the dignity of work is to be protected, then the basic rights of workers must be respected--the right to productive work, to decent and fair wages, to the organization and joining of unions, to private property, and to economic initiative.

Care for God's Creation

We show our respect for the Creator by our stewardship of creation. Care for the earth is not just an Earth Day slogan, it is a requirement of our faith. We are called to protect people and the planet, living our faith in relationship with all of Gods creation. This environmental challenge has fundamental moral and ethical dimensions that cannot be ignored.

Seven themes of Catholic Social Teaching


A lot of people forget that the Catholic bishops were instrumental in bringing Obamacare into existence. Maybe they should have read the thing before they endorsed it instead of trusting Pelosi.




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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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And the DNC has the Muslim Brotherhood:


Starting at the end of this month the Democratic National Convention will open with a focus on Islam. 20,000 Muslims are expected to attend according to the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), the national Muslim American non-profit coordinating the two days of events they claim are non-political. ”Jumah at the DNC” begins August 29 and will start with a Friday afternoon jummah prayer followed by other unnamed programs and events, leading up to the Islamic Regal Banquet. The following day will be an all day Islamic Cultural and Fun Fest which will include discussions on the topics of Islamaphobia, Anti-Shariah, Middle Eastern Crisis, Patriot Act, National Defense Authorization Act and more.


www.redstate.com...





posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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If he is suing Obama of his healthcare plans then he should pull his head out of his butt and look over Ryan's plans.

Paul Ryan, introduced as ‘faithful Catholic’ on ‘human life,’ was rebuked by bishops over cuts to poor


“I write to urge you to resist for moral and human reasons unacceptable cuts to hunger and nutrition programs [that would] hurt hungry children, poor families, vulnerable seniors and workers who cannot find employment. These cuts are unjustified and wrong.”



Ryan has defended his proposed cuts as not only in keeping with church teaching, but also inspired by its teaching on subsidiarity, which has also caused a family feud:

Ryan “could not tell the difference between subsidiarity and sausage,’’ writes Michael Sean Winters in the National Catholic Reporter. “It is true that subsidiarity advocates resolving all social, political and economic issues at the level of social organization closest to the individual. But, it is a two way street. If lower levels of social organization — the family, the community, local government — cannot solve an issue, then it is incumbent upon the higher levels, like the federal government, to step in. Subsidiarity, after all, comes from the Latin word subsidium, help.”



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Can't help but think that the "real" religious nutjobs of theocratic fringe won't like to see the RCC given prominence tho - a Catholic blessing a Mormon presidential candidate?? surely a marriage made in hell???


I don't see a problem, the pope has been pushing for ecumenism for quite a while, this doesn't surprise me a bit.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
And the DNC has the Muslim Brotherhood:


Starting at the end of this month the Democratic National Convention will open with a focus on Islam. 20,000 Muslims are expected to attend according to the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), the national Muslim American non-profit coordinating the two days of events they claim are non-political. ”Jumah at the DNC” begins August 29 and will start with a Friday afternoon jummah prayer followed by other unnamed programs and events, leading up to the Islamic Regal Banquet. The following day will be an all day Islamic Cultural and Fun Fest which will include discussions on the topics of Islamaphobia, Anti-Shariah, Middle Eastern Crisis, Patriot Act, National Defense Authorization Act and more.


www.redstate.com...




Next time read the article before posting your comment. No where in it does it even mention the Muslim Brotherhood.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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I'm not sure I understand the issue here? Everyone is aware that each Congressional Session opens in a similar way, regardless of which party has control for any given Congress, right?

Congress rotates the Faith and such, as I understand it...but it's done every open, like clockwork. The GOP chose the Catholic Church...but I'd look at them funny and wonder about their sanity if they chose a Buddhist or a Wiccan.....

In fact, upon checking...The Chaplain for the US House of Representatives as been a Roman Catholic since 2000. The recent/current one being a Jesuit to be specific....but that covers the large periods controlled by both sides over 12 years.

I just miss why this rates news? Hmm
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Maybe it you who does not read so well.....



Wahhaj is also a Board of Trustee member of the North American Imams Federation (NAIF)(who’s website currently features an anti-Jewish, anti-black rant), a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, who (coincidentally) held a conference in Charlotte last year on Islamophobia. Like Hough, Wahhaj is also connected to NAIT by way of his membership in the Islamic Society of North America(ISNA), which was also found by the government to be a front for HAMAS and the Muslim Brotherhood. While Hough has been careful to play politics in Charlotte, Wahhaj has not hidden his hatred for America. He is quoted as calling America, “a garbage can… filthy, filthy and sick.” As an imam, he has stated, “Where ever you came from, you came to America. And you came for one reason – for one reason only- to establish Allah’s deen (a complete way of life).”


www.redstate.com...



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Plenty of very liberal Catholics buddy. Just ask Nancy Pelosi.... Or a certain former Cardinal from Chicago...Cardinal Joseph Bernardin... Obama knew him very well


my parents were also liberal catholics - which is why they mostly opposed the church on a vast swathe of its dogma and eventually left it when the recent crop of reactionary popes came to power.

there are also liberal republicans, and reactinary Democrats.

But I'm talking about the hierachy - not individual people.

as I'm sure people on here will recognise "the church" is not the same as people!



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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I read the heading and thought "now there's an exercise in futility" on two levels, firstly, expecting that some invisible, unprovable, untouchable pretending friend (or fiend for some) is thought to be useful and secondly, that GOPs will have more or less luck based on this pretending friend since thhey expect that they will be given an advantage over dems. It implies that their "god" (small g) is on their side over the dems. (now doesn't that sound familiar? Like say all of the fights and wars where BOTH sides "pray to pretending friends.). Well, at least it's entertaining and in the future, we can stir the pot if the GOP don't win the election by arguing that their "god" (small g) didn't think much of them and if they do win, then asking if their "god" (small g) wants them to smite the dems.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
If he is suing Obama of his healthcare plans then he should pull his head out of his butt and look over Ryan's plans.

Paul Ryan, introduced as ‘faithful Catholic’ on ‘human life,’ was rebuked by bishops over cuts to poor


“I write to urge you to resist for moral and human reasons unacceptable cuts to hunger and nutrition programs [that would] hurt hungry children, poor families, vulnerable seniors and workers who cannot find employment. These cuts are unjustified and wrong.”



Ryan has defended his proposed cuts as not only in keeping with church teaching, but also inspired by its teaching on subsidiarity, which has also caused a family feud:

Ryan “could not tell the difference between subsidiarity and sausage,’’ writes Michael Sean Winters in the National Catholic Reporter. “It is true that subsidiarity advocates resolving all social, political and economic issues at the level of social organization closest to the individual. But, it is a two way street. If lower levels of social organization — the family, the community, local government — cannot solve an issue, then it is incumbent upon the higher levels, like the federal government, to step in. Subsidiarity, after all, comes from the Latin word subsidium, help.”


Do you work in healthcare? I do. Do you work with Medicare patients? I do (Geriatrics). Do you have firsthand experience of how Obama is destroying healthcare for the elderly? I do, he is, and it's getting much worse.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Plenty of very liberal Catholics buddy. Just ask Nancy Pelosi.... Or a certain former Cardinal from Chicago...Cardinal Joseph Bernardin... Obama knew him very well


Let's not forget Biden, who was told he shouldn't receive communion as long as he supported abortion in his political stance.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:06 AM
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Perhaps proof that socialism and marxism have infiltrated the church to a certain degree.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:20 AM
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A lot of people forget that the Catholic bishops were instrumental in bringing Obamacare into existence. Maybe they should have read the thing before they endorsed it instead of trusting Pelosi.


Agreed! But as I have already posted, socialism and Marxism have entered the Church and perverted the teaching. Oddly enough, liberals don't want the church involved in politics. Or do they just say that?



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:31 AM
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Most diocese and major urban areas have robust ecumenical councils and participate in many interfaith programs. This has expanded a lot since the second Vatican Council. The official stance of The Church is that the various Christian denominations aren't in full communion with Rome, but are legitimate Christian faiths so long as they recognize baptism in the name of the Holy Spirit and recognize the Triune God. Faiths which do not recognize one or either aren't shunned, but they are considered to be wholly apart from the Church.

If anything, I find it more curious what Mormons feel about any Catholic blessing. Though I am not as well versed in LDS practices, it has always been my understanding that they view interfaith activities more as opportunities to proselytize and convert and are not open to prayer and worship with non Mormons outside of the effort to convert.

(If my understanding here is archaic or flat incorrect, please feel free to set me straight on that. I have attempted to learn more about the LDS, but have found much of the information to be very one sided or biased in both the pro and anti directions.)



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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Interestingly, Romney isn't in charge of the RNC, so I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by Catholic Cardinals doing the prayer.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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So I guess religion isn't so extreme after all.....strange, I hear people here all the time saying religionists are extreme "RIGHT WING".... I guess only Christians are extreme though....(note sarcasm).




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