If i summon a demon, will he help me?

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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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reply to post by quietlearner
 


Too many youngsters watching Harry Potter think it's a picnic in the park.

A school counselor won't help this person, most either don't believe in satan or think along insanity / brain dysfunction lines and not biblical theory.

Kid needs a really good preacher.




posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:49 AM
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AQuestion said it very well:




You are young and feel that you have no power over your life, you seek it elsewhere; but, Machiavelli (a famous writer on government and war) said never to ask someone else who you thought was stronger to help you because he might turn on you. If you have to call on stronger forces to help you then you do not get stronger. They take you over.


Many good replies.

Nice to be on ATS with no trolls around.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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NOTE: what i'm about to say is possibly the stupidest thing ... EVER SAID.. but meh..

Why go small?
Don't just conjure something capture it with Video's and all sorts of wonderful ghost hunting stuff..
Make it an event? .. televised worldwide for all to see the glory of the beast.. or just go totally viral over the tube

That is... were we as a society are going isn't it.. ?

Pix, Vid.. or it didn't happen



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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If you do some more reading and choose wisely an entity may be generous enough to answer your prayer.

Rather than summon a demon right away you should look into red and black magic. Red is a good one to begin with because even to the skeptic it can work psyhosomatically.

Keep thinking positive fellow seeker!



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:59 AM
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Sounds like you need some love little brother.

Here, have some from me and focus on things you can change in your life for the better instead of going down this path.

Regardless of if it's true or not, you believing it could be bad for your mental health.

Much ♥



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 04:10 AM
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Your other post and this one were good..........starred.

This kid and I'm old enough to be his grandma is hyped up with all the Satanic hoopla hollywood is putting out there.

Twilight, Harry Potter, Priest, Legion and all the rest of the junk our youth are being exposed too on purpose.

I keep telling you folks to go to LA Marzulli's site and to read his books and Russ Dizdar's "The Black Awakening".

There is a cosmic chess match going on and we're all a pawn in it.

He's like a two year old that has a blow torch and going to get burnt if he doesn't put the damn thing down.

demons are not nice, they don't play fair, they are ruthless, tricksters and hateful.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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I would strongly advise against summoning any demons.
You will regret it. Any good that comes from it is only temporary

They are not your friends.
They will only harm you.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 06:10 AM
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You say that you have been having contact with a demon already,and that your life has started to decline.Yet now you want to go even deeper into this? I think your immaturity is in full control and the demon is on the sidelines egging you on.

If people around you ARE showing symptoms of acting strangely why would you want to make things worse?

This isn't like getting a cold or infection. You just go to a doctor and get some meds to fix things back...a priest can tell you,it can take years IF successful to exorcise a demon.There is no guarantee.

People have been known to die from the demons hold on them or an 'attempted' exorcism.The demons will be more than happy to kill you and have your soul.It's all you REALLY have to offer them.

Your faith has faltered while all this is going too eh? I'm sure it has, the demons need it to so you have no protection.You just need to realize you are playing right into they're hands.

But if you want to go in deeper, I wouldn't worry. They seem to already have a good grip on you.The possession just hasn't taken place yet,but they will get around to it.Hope you get your soul back when its all done.

Just don't get it. The things people think they want, Wow.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Demon's are a part of an individual. Learn to control your imagination first.... because your imagination can kill you and others.


If you summon a demon you are giving your imagination power over you.
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posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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To put this bluntly, if your truly serious and not just trolling, don't go screwing around with those things.
Second.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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makes me wonder if these online games like wow and guildwars whether inadvertadly they are mechanims which can open real portals for demons.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Safe only in what you consider safe. If you call, he will come. And then it is to wonder...if you ask for a deal, then what will be your price. In the case of a Demon, the price is great. The safety, or lack of it, is simply in your willingness to pay.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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If i summon a demon, will he help me?


I've encountered evil spirits a handful of times.
They HATE you. The hate is overpowering and it's all directed AT YOU.
The only help a demon gives is to itself.
Something that is all hate isn't interested in helping you.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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I have no agenda. I intend no disrespect.

Demons are as serious as any gods that are summoned. There are those that will teach and preach the good and the bad of any religious belief.

Free Will is something we were all granted by all religious docturnes. It is a gift.

My understanding of this topic is that if you are not completely aware of what you are doing, you could get no response whatsoever accept the distant sounds of manical laughter. Or the Demon you ask for WOULD come. You are not Not NOT strong enough to hold it. You have too much internal turmoil. It's humor and sense of justice (or just plain nature) could set a chain reaction to events you have no control over. But are YOUR responsibility.

Short answer: IF you summon a demon it WILL help.

Will it help itself? Likely. Will it help you? Not in the way you are hoping.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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Demon possession is very serious and i cannot see why you would want anything to be able to possess your body with YOU still in it...

Do you realize how much this hurts, and how much pain is associated? All throughout your body...every second is just excruciating. You think and act differently, you will be paranoid for your life, and you'd have absolutely NO control over any function. Its like you're in there and you can feel every feeling, but you're not controlling it.

Ive had a possession where "it" kept making me bite my lip and the inside of my cheek. My lips were raw and bleeding, and i bit the nerves in my cheek so hard that i have no feeling in the left, upper side. It made me bow toward the mirror in a friends bedroom, as if i should praise it.

Fear not, as you will get what you wish for, whether you make a deal or not you've probably already attracted one with your foolish thoughts.

Do you want to know the scariest part??
You forget how to pray. You forget how to be saved. It took me a whole 2 hours, after constant repetition to recite the Lord's prayer.

May God watch over you,
Mike



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Wow, what insite. The Demons price will be your soul, for God has taken his. That is his revenge against God. But he cannot take it because you say so, or he does. In fact you are God's. But the Demon will take your mind, and lead you into madness so at the time of the end you wont hear God when he calls for you. Now in the end, the soul will still get called to God. So why does it matter then? Well, who wants to spend ANY time, in what madness the Demon will show you. That is where real terror lies. What kind of Hell could a Demon bring to you mind. I shutter to even think of it.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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An overwhelming feeling of hopelessness, paranoia, schizophrenia among other things.

My advice to the Threader,

Don't mess unless you want to be messed,

Mike



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Hello Frocharocha,

I posted some yesterday afternoon on your thread, but had to log off over night, and now the thread is up to 6 pages. So I hope my insight isn't buried in the confusion.

I want to tell you, that even though there are a lot of people on the thread saying to "go for it" or "you never know til you try", that they don't really understand the underlying possibilities. You see, I may have never summoned a demon myself, as I suspect some of them haven't truly either, but I have gone toe to toe with a very specific demon. I know that you said you are an atheist (though through your other comments, you seem more agnostic), but I want you to know that I am a Christian. The only way I was able to stand in the presence of this demon was by the power of Jesus Christ. It wasn't under my own power, it wasn't any internal strength, or any goodness in me; it was Christ. I'm not trying to tell you to believe in Christ; just sharing my experience. Anyway, the situation was that a demon had been brought into a church where I was a member. The first experience held by anyone of this demon, the door opened, footsteps were heard, and when that person got up to offer assistance, no one was there. The door to the sanctuary was just closing when he looked out of his office so he walked down to the sanctuary, and found a man standing at the altar. He called out to the man who turned and glared at him, laughed and ran... right through the wall. Not only this experience but many times I would be in the church and hear footsteps, or a light would flicker, or worse yet was the EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon). I had never heard such sounds in my life. One night, while working late, some of us decided to "investigate". We went in completely unprepared for what we would experience. We started in the sanctuary, we didn't see anything other than "dancing shadows". We were visiting about what we needed to do, when I heard something. If I clock sounds like tick-tock, this was a tick-tock-tick-tick-tock. Completely off beat, I looked up and saw the clock take a few ticks backwards. And it went from 70 or so to near 30, instantly. We knew we were in the presence of a demon. We called out in the name of Christ (remember it wasn't our power) and the demon fled. The temperature warmed and the clock went back to ticking correctly. We walked through the building and found the cold had moved to a back corner room, this time instead of telling it to leave us, I asked his name. That voice... That voice I will never forget. And I will never forget the name, Beelzebul. It still causes me to shiver. As a group we answered the voice with a statement casting the demon out of the building with the understanding he was not welcome there. It took a group of us to force him out. Do you think that as an individual that you can handle any demon, let alone Beelzebul? In this I am not trying to push you into a belief in Christ, but I can say from experience that the name and blood of Christ, has power. I want to continue discussing with you, if you want. This is purely your choice, but I don't want you to make any choice without a good understanding of the consequences.

Kasei



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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A lot of people believe in demons. I had no idea. Most of them appear to be Christians. I do believe in God, so I guess I would be a hypocrite if I told you that it was silly to believe in demons without proof. One of the questions that comes to mind is--Do only Christians believe in Demons? What if the OP was a Muslim or Hindu, what advice would you give him then? Why all the hate on Harry Potter-Do you believe that book to be evil?



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Many Muslims believe in demons, the Jinn. If the OP came out and claimed that he was a Muslim, my advice would still be the same, because that is what I have experienced. Not that I couldn't, or wouldn't, do the necessary research to answer his questions based on the Qur'an. There are a lot of people who believe in demons, sadly more so than believe in any form of God (Christian or not). Our media, and Hollywood, in the US, have a lot to do with that sad to say.

Kasei





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