If i summon a demon, will he help me?

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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what the op need is professional help
I would start with the school counselor \
good luck




posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Frocharocha

Originally posted by horseplay
you must be either trolling or crazy.
If you think you're possessed get some help.
Demons are nothing to play with.
If you believe in God you are not an atheist. You are just a bit lost and confused. You sound young enough to know right from wrong. get real, man.


Demons exist in nearly almost all religions of the world. They have nothing to do with God. The exorcism rituals goes beyond the Sumerian civilization. Also, doesn't alot of people (like christians) that murders and other terrible stuff is caused by demons?



You're quote previously threw me off:




I tought that Atheists are people who don't belive in God or other deitys. In my case, i don't belive in the christian God but i know that there's a God out there and he is realated to demons.


Like you said, atheists do not believe in a or any God, but God is not related to demons per-say.
A true Demon has never been in a human form. They are very very bad.. Satans Minions, so to speak.
demon voices talk to me from time to time, they are quite clever at putting evil thought in your head.
but it's so easy to overcome. It's ultimately your choice. You can listen to the good, or fall for the bad.
Please don't fall for the dark side.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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An obedient demon? hmmm well it depends. Im almost pretty positive that demons dont obey just anyone. You can probably make a deal but who knows what kind of Demon your trying to summon. If i were you I would really seriously investigate the "cons and pros" of the summoning. For instance what are you summoning? what for? for what cause? is it dangerous? would it be worth it? Do you have plan A, B, C, D, Ect. just incase things go wrong. And most of all are you prepared? but seriously are you prepared. One slight weakness in you might be the end of you.

Like with my Dog for instance. To most people shes like a little Demon but she respects me and i respect her because we have a deal, I give her food and treats and shelter. In return she guards the house. She loves her job Especially since we met when she was a bit older so you know its kind of hard to bond sometimes but we got through that and if she ever wants to leave its her choice.
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Afterall to make a deal with a "Demon" you gotta be alittle Demonish yourself. Sly per say.

Its almost like making or trying to close a sell with a Top Noch wallstreet Investor/banker. Yo gota be good at what you do.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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No, a demon will not help you.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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Stay away from this stuff. Demons do not play on a level field and if you invite one into your life you (and those around you) will surely suffer.Demons do not play on a level field and if you invite one into your life you (and those around you) will surely suffer.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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You invite a demon in, good luck getting rid of it after. Why would anyone trust an evil entity? I'm sure you will have tp pay in some way that isn't pleasant at all.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Only one way to find out.....



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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Dont Do It-Please!! Try taking a bath in SALT and SAGE..Put Salt in the window sills and door ways..I hope this helps get rid of the evil..Air youre house out..if you can find a sage stick..burn it through the house..wave the smoke throughout the home



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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You're 15? But a babe. How heartbreaking


Why aren't you running around outside, bike riding, going on adventures, doing homework or crushing on some girl - being the winsome, hope-filled, energetic, innocent creature that you are?

15-year-olds summoning demons ... what is the world coming to?

If you would like some genuine, judgment-free counsel in this matter - please PM me.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Summoning and controlling demons and using them as familiars is a myth. A demon is just the spirit of a dead Nephilim. People often misconstrue fallen angels as demons and theyre not. You're not an atheist if you believe you're possessed. Anytime i've heard of a case of possession they always try to kill the person theyre possessing and sometimes they do succeed.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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7 - 14 - 21.
for your soul you get 7, for yours and others you get 14, if you lead masses you get 21 years of assistance before your contract ends and you serve eternity.

sign: Here______________________ an X will do,



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Frocharocha
Hello plp. I'm facinated by the paranormnal fields by years. Homever, some months ago my life started to decline considerable and made me think about summoning a Djinn or a Goetia demon ( they say some are human friendly) to change things.

Homever, i also belive that i'm already possed by a demon. Because i just started on thinking about these summons on those months that i mentioned and i'm also becamed a totaly atheist, like if the Christain/Catholic a part of me died or just feels empity. I also becamed alot intersted in the Sathanist religion to the point of becoming one.

Homever, if i'm trully possesed, i'ts seems that the demon likes me (or not). At the school, people cry because of stupid reasons, fight each other etc and they are all realated to me or are my friends.This is also affecting my family. I started to become very agressive, and i'm not agressive. I was also very angry with these people yearlier, It's like if the possesion was in my favor. I also started to stay away as max as i could from divine symbols and not touch them without reason. It's like if someone thinked for me.

Anyway, i got intersting on summoning demons. I was planing on summoning an Goetia demon like Beelzebu. In exchange of getting something that i wanted, the demon would ask something in favor that we both agree. So. Is this method safe? Is this method advisable? Should i forget that? Thanks i appreciate.
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Dear Frocharocha,

Firstly, if you are from Brazil and 15 then you did pretty good with your writing.

If I were with you, I would ask you what you think demons are. Do you think you are smarter than them or have a better understanding of the spiritual realms than they do? I am a Christian; but, I actually have some young friends that were Wiccans and Satanists. We almost never discuss religion; but, we have on occasion. I do not recall ever having a problem with Satanists (though a gnostic on this site said that I should die just for being a Christian after I complimented him on something he had written). It is my experience that a true Satanist or Luciferian is pretty good about having others believe what they will. It is also my experience, as shown by the responses, that no truly experienced Satanist would suggest you try such a thing by yourself or casually. They respect the spirit world and know that they can easily be fooled.

You are young and feel that you have no power over your life, you seek it elsewhere; but, Machiavelli (a famous writer on government and war) said never to ask someone else who you thought was stronger to help you because he might turn on you. If you have to call on stronger forces to help you then you do not get stronger. They take you over.

I must ask you this, why do you think a demon would help you, to what end, why would they care to, how would you benefit them? Demons are pure emotions and they are the bad emotions, greed, hate, things like that. Angels are also pure, they are love, kindness and other caring emotions. They have a single purpose and it is not to help you, it is to fulfill their desire. If we become single minded then we become obsessive and compulsive rather than self determined.

I have had numerous interruptions while writing this and have lost my train of thought.

Let me end with this and go back and read anything I have written, I never tell anyone to be a Christian. I don't know why you left the church, that is your business. If you truly believe in demons, you need to find the better and that is God. Find a good church that teaches the bible rather than these hateful churches that condemn everyone or the ones that have no belief in right or wrong. I don't tell atheists that they need to find God nor do I say that to agnostics, not my issue. I don't tell Satanists they need to find God, they have found what they seek. It says that "Seek and you shall find". If someone does not seek then there is nothing I can say to them that would matter. If someone, like yourself, has found a part of the answer then I will answer questions that might help you understand better what is out there.

You are a self aware being, you matter, decide who you want to be and don't give your free will to anyone, you will always lose.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
You're not an atheist if you believe you're possessed.


You can be an atheist and believe in spirits. Atheism is just not believing in a God.


Originally posted by Frocharocha
Anyway, i got intersting on summoning demons. I was planing on summoning an Goetia demon like Beelzebu. In exchange of getting something that i wanted, the demon would ask something in favor that we both agree. So. Is this method safe? Is this method advisable? Should i forget that? Thanks i appreciate.
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Is the method safe? No.
Is this method advisable? Yes.
Should you forget it? Your choice.

Be careful that you do not get tricked by negative entities. Some will pretend to want to harm you and scare you when you work with magic because they don't want your soul to progress in learning.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Frocharocha
I also started to stay away as max as i could from divine symbols and not touch them without reason. It's like if someone thinked for me.


That has happened to me too. I am a theistic Satanist. Let me tell you this, if anyone starts yelling at you about how you should believe in god and stuff, ignore them; they are ignorant. Look at both sides (God and Demons/Satan) before deciding.

I myself believe that demons arent evil, they just challenge you to see how strong you are. By strength i mean, mental wellness, responsibility, self control, individuality, etc.

If you are to summon a demon, make sure you know what demon you are dealing with and its personality and purpose. If you say you are possessed, maybe that demon is trying to guide you. Call it out and try to communicate. But dont pull out threats. Just try to understand what its purpose is (its your body after all). Demons can be tricky because they challenge your mind and get you to think far beyond what you believe.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by wash777
No, a demon will not help you.


what he said^^^^^^



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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I often lure demons into my body so I can destroy them.

Seriously, though. I've often considered that if a person were to attain higher levels of positive spiritual power, negative entities would be drawn to the person like a magnet.

I write fiction sometimes and one of my characters is a demon exterminator and his baiting methods vary from claiming himself incorruptible and outright challenging Satanic forces to feigning weakness in an attempt to lure an opportunistic demon.

For example, he'll tell everyone that he's practicing a pure lifestyle of vegetarianism and celibacy, do it for a few months and then have a fake breakdown where he eats fast food and womanizes for a week, all in a con game to lure powerful demons into his body so he can then fight them to the death. Anyone here own a publishing company?



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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One of the more ridiculous things I’ve read this week. I don’t know if devils and demons and all that is true but just in case I probably wouldn’t advise to be getting yourself involved in that. Your grammar and tone suggests that you’re very young... Fourteen to sixteen sort of age. Or English is your second language. Either way it doesn’t matter.

My words to you are these; anything you appear to be going through now will seem utterly inconsequential in ten or fifteen years time.

It seems more like some sort of mental disorder rather than demonic possession, but I’m no expert. Maybe see a psychiatrist or a psychologist. Your choice, but they are slightly different professions. Psychiatrists treat things like mental health and illness while psychologists specialise in human behavioural issues.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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Summon any demon successfully and you are playing with fire and going to get burnt to a crisp.

These entities are thousands (or more) of years older than man, they know us better than we know ourselves and they are way smarter.

Any entity from hell will ALWAYS get the better end of any deal you make.

How old are you?????

You've watched too many Harry Potter movies - the reality makes the Death Eaters look like girl scouts.

I studied the occult and dabbled for a couple decades under some pretty adept teachers that if you did a google search would easily pop up.

Demons do not like humanity.

They are damned, lost, there is no chance they are going to ever get back into God's good graces.

Because humanity is not damned outright for all eternity because Jesus came down and sacrificed himself - they are jealous and hate us because they know that one day we will stand before the presence of God provided we do not sell our soul. The price tag is not worth it.

they are madder than all get out that we have the possibility to eventually stand before the presence of God the Father - they never will and believe me, this pisses them off to no end. They are truly damned and they want nothing more than to bring as many humans down with them as possible.

Demons lie. Understand that one sentence.

Again, play with fire and you're going to get burned really bad.

If you think you are possessed go to either Russ Dizdar's site or LA Marzulli's site and contact them before you walk into a theater and shoot up people and face First Degree murder charges without any recollection of where you have been and what you have done for the past two days.

A tool is a fool to be used and abused.

Now, before you summon any entity - know that you will be used, not vice-verse.

Sort of like the cat letting the mouse thinking it might just get away while the cat is playing with you (and you are the mouse).

In the end you will loose your most precious possession - your soul. Before that you may loose your sanity.

theblackawakening.com...

theblackawakening.com...

LA Marzulli

lamarzulli.wordpress.com...

I strongly suggest you read Russ Dizdar's "The Black Awakening" and pray to Jesus.

All the hate, violence, every bit of the nasty stuff here on earth has been done in the name of the fallen angels.

I really don't think you comprehend who or what you wish to deal with.

I flipped open randomly a page and this is what I got;


Return to the Lord your God, for he is gracious and compassionate....abounding in loving kindness - joel 2:13


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