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Originally posted by queenofswords
Originally posted by olaru12
Originally posted by Baldryck
On topic, the government can't force anyone to have a child. Even if abortion was illegal again, which I doubt it ever will be, people will find ways to abort unwanted pregnancies.
Very true. There would be abortion flights to Mexico and Canada, back alley abortionists, underground publications on how to induce miscarriage thru different drugs etc. just like there was before Roe v. Wade. Abortion in America was a cottage industry. It's the GOP that wants to return to "the good old days"...
I, too, don't think abortion will ever be a major political topic. Libs like to paint broad strokes on basic GOP values like pro-life, but there are lots of Republicans that are pro-choice. The libs try to get women all upset and heated up telling them the GOP is going to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and frankly, women that don't do their due diligence buy into the hyperbole.
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons
Originally posted by IsThisThingBugged
It is the women's body yes... men can't, and shouldn't, be able to FORCE an abortion on any women .
But they should be able to "force" the women to keep the baby.
I always thought it is a healthy compromise. And EXACTLY the rights women have, am I right?
I hate lib, conserv paradigm nonsense but in an equable society shouldn't a man have a say in the life of his possible child?... Not forcing abortion on women but forcing life for babies...
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
I am not pro abortion but I do think it should be left up to the woman.
My question is for the men.
If your daughter, sister or wife was raped and became pregnant, how would men feel about the government forcing them to have the child ? Yes the child can be put up for adaption, but how would men handle the pregnancy of there loved one by a rapiest ?
Should there be no abortions at all ?
Originally posted by fallow the light
You did the crime you pay the time.
You like someone, and you want to see how physically compatible they are, so, while learning about the person, it suddenly becomes mandatory that you MUST have their child? You MUST deal with them for the rest of your life as a co-parent, even if just distantly?
Sex is a natural form of entertainment, and fairly necessary as a means for establishing pair bonding and compatibility with someone over the time you are making a decision of keeping him or not. It's not a crime.
Originally posted by fallow the light
So then the the male DOSE have the right to say for the child if you feel that you "MUST KEEP THEIR" child? If the child also belongs to the male then he should have say. It's also his after all.
And if you do not want to HAVE to see them for the rest of your life then think about that before you have sex with him.
Originally posted by olaru12
There are plenty of unwanted kids in the adoption agencies. When the pro life people start adopting the majority of those kids without families; perhaps then their argument against abortion might have some validity.
Put up or shut up!!
Ideology with out positive acts is just political masturbation; it means nothing and just points out your hypocrisy.
Pro life but only on your terms, huh?
The effect of legalized abortion on crime (sometimes referred to as the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis) is the theory that legal abortion reduces crime. Proponents of the theory generally argue that since unwanted children are more likely to become criminals and that an inverse correlation is observed between the availability of abortion and subsequent crime. Moreover, children born under these conditions are usually less fortunate as enough preparation was not put in place for their birth and upbringing. In particular, it is argued that the legalization of abortion in the United States, largely due to the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, has reduced crime in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. en.wikipedia.org...
The government should stay out of the legality besides for rape, incest and underage cases and it should be the choice of the hospital besides for rape, incest and underage cases. I don't believe that the government should put any funding into abortion except for rape, incest and underage cases.
Originally posted by IsThisThingBugged
It is the women's body yes... men can't, and shouldn't, be able to FORCE an abortion on any women .
But they should be able to "force" the women to keep the baby.
I always thought it is a healthy compromise. And EXACTLY the rights women have, am I right?
I hate lib, conserv paradigm nonsense but in an equable society shouldn't a man have a say in the life of his possible child?... Not forcing abortion on women but forcing life for babies...
reply to post by Sulie
But the father should be held responsible for getting my body back to the way it was, pre-twins.
Originally posted by fallow the light
If you don't like the views of others on this subject then stay out of this kind of thread.