reply to post by TempleCat
Again - a belief system that thinks a fertilized egg is a "person".
Your argument is based on the belief system that fetuses are not worthy of any rights and that women can be victims of their own actions. There are
proponents of abortion that argue that babies in general don't have personhood- even after they born.
Being the host of a fertilized egg is not a reason for denial of rights to an actual viable human being.
A woman who gets pregnanat as a result of her actions is not having her rights violated.
Nope - Forcing another person to do your bidding by forced incubation is slavery.
But you don't have a problem with slavery- you think it's acceptable to force someone to pay for the choices of others.
Women's bodies carry a pregnancy. Therefore - whether she carries it or not is ultimately up to her. I recall saying there are many issues
that factor in.
My point is that abortion is NOT an issue that only affects 'women's bodies'.
Men contribute 50% of the genetics.
....but genetics don't matter to you. The fact that it's genetically your child has no relevance in being able to avoid responsibility for it.
Contribution to genetics doesn't mean he has a choice in whether his child will live or die. There's no logical reason why he should be obligated to
pay for a woman's choice.
No, again, because the man also has 50% responsibility in getting her pregnant in the first place.
...and he has 0% responsibility in choosing to grow a child that will need to be taken care of. Again, his actions in getting her pregnant doesn't
mean he has any say whether an 'actual child' will be created or not. That's 100% the responsibility of the woman, therefore, the child's needs
are 100% her responsibility.
You play, you pay.
That's not how it works. Women aren't forced to pay when they play. Sex is a seperate issue from reproduction. Consenting to sex is not consenting
The woman pays, why shouldn't the man?
The woman is the one makes the choice to create a child. She chose not to have an abortion and chose to grow a child that would need to be taken care
You do know men don't own women in America, right?
...but women own men?
You're advocating for control of women and then telling them it's the only reason men should take responsibility. I don't think you're
really thinking any of this through.
You're advocating for the control of men and telling them that they're responsible for women's choices. I don't think you're really thinking this
Nature dictates that the woman carries the child.
The notion that women have a 'right' to abortion and that men have no say in the matter and are still obligated to take responsibility is a modern
social construct created by deadbeats.
If he really cared about the person he was doing the horizontal bop with he would be supportive of her struggles to make the right choice for
them all, anyway.
Since when does having sex with someone equal caring about them? Even if he does care about her, that doesn't mean he doesn't care about his
child....and if she kills his child. then he has absolutley no obligation to respect or support her in any way whatsoever. If women can make choices
for men, then it's only logical that men can make choices for women.
Children should have their father's emotional and/or financial support.
If they don't even have to have their mother's life support, then forget all those trivial aspects. Besides, women are now financially independent
and can pay for their own choices.
Your personal skewed opinion does not equal reality.
You can't refute what I said.
The ONLY positive thing I can see coming from rampant abortion on demand is that it's killing western civilization faster.