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Originally posted by SarnholeOntarable
reply to post by seeknoevil
Dead center of a black hole...if light can't escape then time has to stop somewhere in the equation....I suggest.
Otherwise being dead is still up in the air for an explanation.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by chr0naut
There are some theorists who contend that time, in fast, is illusory. In fact there are people who find it easier to reconcile general and special relativity if time is removed from the equation.
So my thoughts are based in science and published papers that I've come across over the years.
Math is a wonderful tool. My issue with math is that it tends to break down when we begin to apply it to the micro and the macro. Physics falls short in these areas. To me this supports the idea of a fractal universe.. Anyone who has played with fractals knows that they have transitioning phases. You begin with one view, it alters for a period, and then, eventually, it returns to its original shape. Over and over again. Recently a graphic interpretation of dark matter was released and it looked amazingly like tissue. This adds to the puzzle. I think that traditional mathematics currently lacks the language to explain this transitory phases in the fractal process. Oh and this tangent is on topic because if the universe is fractal - then it is also, in some ways, static and a static universe is directly in line with non-linear time theories. We all know that math often ends up hitting walls - and failing. This is exactly what gives rise to reinterpretation and theory.
Of course these are just the thoughts that make sense to my mind. I cannot prove them and offer them only as food for thought for others. The caveat here is that you cannot prove otherwise. So we stalemate.
Oh, and one more note. A fractal universe also tends to explain the mystery of quantum entanglement. If there are superstructures, beyond our ability to see, due to perspective, then they can readily explain things.
My .02 cents.
~Heffedit on 8/23/12 by Hefficide because: bad bb tag
Originally posted by tkwasny
The infinitesimal duration instance, which is actually a string of such instances occuring at Planck rate, that is infinite space, better understood as "the present".
Because of there being no time in the structure of pure infinite expanse of space, it implodes from everywhere, towards everywhere, down and inward as space converts into pure time, that becomes all the past.
This time current down and inward (that was infinite expanse of space when it represented "the present") is flooding toward the ONE infinitely kinetic, infinitesimal Singularity.
Space is time that is non-kinetic (because of it's impacting the infinite null, stopping it cold). Time is space that is absolute kinetic because of the infinite kinetics of the ONE infinitesimal Singularity.
Where that ONE Singularity IS, as a collective of the "flight path", is the infinite expanse foundation of the dimension of height. Where that same ONE Singularity IS NOT, as a collective of the same "flight path", is the infinite null, the infinite impedence.
It is the infinite impedence that when impacted by the current of time out from all the future, explodes into conversion into infinite expanse of space (current got stopped by impedence and turned into voltage)
edit on 24-8-2012 by tkwasny because: typo fix.edit on 24-8-2012 by tkwasny because: typo fix.
Originally posted by buddha
No such thing as Time!
It is just one state to the next.
One thing moves from one point to the next.
A clock ticks, give it more gravity and it ticks faster.
No gravity and it ticks slow.
This has been proven by taking a atomic clock in to space,
And one down a deep mine.
When they got them together again.
The one from the mine was faster.
A photon of light moves through space.
If it passes a star it will speed up and bend around it.
This is called the lens effect.
Movement IS time.
If you could move all the atoms molecules
Back to a state in the past. Would that be back in time?
No! Just atoms molecules moving about.
And that is what time IS…
Sorry to shatter the illusion.
Originally posted by mac420
"time isn't a straight progresson from A to B, Actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, its more like a Big Ball of Wibbly Wobbly, Timey Wimey...stuff." And that is the best I can explain what time is haha.
For real, I've always wondered if time only exists because we say it does. What if 'time' is a human invention? Interesting to think about.
Originally posted by seeknoevil
Could there actually be a place of no time? Curious, what kind of space would it take up? Would it even occupy space? Hmmm.. Thoughts?
Originally posted by Hefficide
If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? No, because sound is merely a waveform until it vibrates an object capable of translating the wave into something else.