Originally posted by SeenAlot
The carbon tests were all found in the last 20 years or so. Has the metabolism of the planet been at the same rate for the last 5,000 or 15,000 or 5B years? Can that be proven? It's in a machine that would have seemed like some sort of voodoo snake oil to my Model T riding Granny.
I just don't believe enough is known. I believe too many things have been taken for granted as a known unit of measure.
Göebleki Tepe is a brilliant wonderful intellectually stimulating find. I see it as a transitional man made object that stands between Stonehenge and Egyptian stonework.
I betcha it sits in the middle of scientific conflicts for another 20-30 years.
If you look at something and measure it with human intellect patterns will emerge. If results depend on mechanized results alone. The big picture could be missed.
reply to post by Krazysh0t
This is despite that this site has been known about now for 22 years. With how often they update college textbooks, you'd think book publishers would jump at the chance to release a new textbook version. I mean the name of the site was never even mentioned in the class. I realize that they like to gloss over finer details in high school history classes. But at the college level, this seems like a detail that maybe should at least get a mention.
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Originally posted by ABNARTY
reply to post by flexy123
The "conspiracy" is not so much with the location itself but the acceptance of what it may mean to the scientific community.
There are are a lot of academic careers dependent on history appearing a certain way. This find up ends a lot of that. Ergo, those who made a living "being right" could be wrong.
There is no 'dependence on history appearing a certain way'....if there is what is that?
Suppression? Near zero, something that old is beyond political concern.
Originally posted by butterflyowl
What if a site or find shows very clearly that our modern/western way of life is to be feared?
What if that site teaches very poetically that "The Fall" happened but that they learned their lesson and got back to "The Garden"? I don't think that the world elite or 1% would dig that at all! = No more servants/slaves/human chattel.
In other words it may be, IMO, possible that some "leaders" turned a beautifully depicted wise-lesson-learned monument into an invisible man in the sky's punishment story, buried it and ran.
Originally posted by butterflyowl
I wonder if the scientists there could ever conclude who buried the site, if it was the same people who built them or if another band/group did.
I used the old testament in the context that it's (the book of Genesis) where real folk lore, of the time of writing, was used to teach some doctrines. Not that it was black and white history, but is sprinkled with real name-places.
It's well established that most ancient religions world wide has the same'ish stories of "The Creation", "The Fall", "The Flood" and that they could not be all a coincidental, that around the end of the last Ice Age the survivors world wide who shared a common experience ended up with the same reactions more or less.
Creation of Heaven and Earth
The Shinto creation story begins by describing the means by which Heaven and Earth were separated. Initially, both were combined into a substance analogous to an egg. This mass contained germs within indefinite borders. As this composition separated, the purer, clear element rose out, forming Heaven. The denser, impure substance sank to become Earth. Heaven formed easily, thus was completed first. Earth, however, evolved with more trouble, and therefore developed later.
Creation of the Kami
Once Heaven and Earth were formed, the deities of Shinto were created. A reed sprouted from the newly created Earth, becoming the god Kuni-toko-tachi no Mikoto. Next evolved seven more generations of deities both male and female. These gods are Kuni no sa-tsuchi no Mikoto, Toyo-kumu-nu no Mikoto, pure males, Uhiji-ni no Mikoto, Suhiji-ni no Mikoto, Oho-to nochi, Oho-to mahe no Mikoto, and finally Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto. These deities or Kami do not possess the omnipotence or wrath commonly associated with gods of other religions.
Creation of Land Masses
Once created, Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto discussed the lack of creation on Earth. To rectify the situation they threw their heavenly spear into the ocean that composed Earth. Upon contact with the spear, part of the ocean became an island named Ono-goro-jima. When translated, this means center of the land. The two Kami descended to Earth and lived together on this island. By uniting as husband and wife, Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto produced more islands. They created the islands of Ahaji no Shima, Oho-yamato no Toyo-aki-tsu-shima, Iyo no futa-na, Tsukushi, Oki and Sado, Oho-ya-shima, and Tsushima and Iki. Together these islands formed a country. Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto then joined together to create the sea, rivers, and mountains.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Not every habitat is a 'religious building' or a mural a ' religious artefact'. If a future archeologist were to dig the remains of Earth in New York and found the Statue of Liberty, he would think we worshipped the goddess of flame! Thus may our current archeologist and anthropologists not make the same mistake with more new finds.