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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
 


See, that's what I don't get. The anarchists that sit at home and do nothing and wishing something will happen.




posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen23

Does anyone understand that the Military Industrial Complex/Corporation USA Inc. is fighting for its life right now because people are waking up to the fact that our governments are turning us into instant criminals so to safeguard their duplicitous acts against its own citizens.


Here is a long quote but I feel it's an appropriate reply


“Modern industrial civilisation has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilisation has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate, even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits⎯in the classic formulation.

Now, it's long been understood very well that a society that is based on this principle will destroy itself in time. It can only persist with whatever suffering and injustice it entails as long as it's possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create are limited: that the World is an infinite resource, and that the World is an infinite garbage-can. At this stage of History, either one of two things is possible: either the general population will take control of its own destiny and will concern itself with community-interests, guided by values of solidarity and sympathy and concern for others; or, alternatively, there will be no destiny for anyone to control.

As long as some specialised class is in a position of authority, it is going to set policy in the special interests that it serves. But the conditions of survival, let alone justice, require rational social planning in the interests of the community as a whole⎯and, by now, that means the Global Community. The question is whether privileged élites should dominate mass-communication, and should use this power as they tell us they must, namely, to impose necessary illusions, manipulate and deceive the stupid majority, and remove them from the public arena. The question, in brief, is whether Democracy and Freedom are values to be preserved or threats to be avoided. In this possibly-terminal phase of human existence, Democracy and Freedom are more than values to be treasured, they may well be essential to survival.”

― Noam Chomsky



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Anarchists are usually people who want to see the government destroyed! They are the ones who will go out and do it to


See, that's what I don't get. The anarchists that sit at home and do nothing and wishing something will happen.


So damned if we do and damned if we don't


Can you please disable your cameras in my house, in friends houses, in my yard and in my car. Please. I don't appreciate that you have been watching my every move. Every action.

On that note. Please disable the cameras you have places elsewhere for the other anarchists you watch.

Although I must admire the time and dedication it must take you to monitor that much that you can make that claim so absolutely.

Please be more reasonable with your posts and I will gladly have a discussion
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:20 PM
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Once again they take a label and contort it into their own Vision, exactly what they did with 'Liberal' 'Socialist' etc

what is sad, is that many of the Sheep believe it,

i am an Anarchist, but not because i've been told my thoughts make me one



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Anarchy = no government.

No laws. No protection.

That's chaos.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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even if one were to protest ( which we all know doesn't do a GOD damn thing),
you would be treated like an "extremist" ...

we might see some "ows" folks going to jail...



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:08 AM
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I am only willing to have a discussion with someone who I feel has at least some understanding of the subject matter. I don't feel that is the case so we should end discussion. If you watch either videos I posted (I suggest the 2nd for you) that would be a start and perhaps could be a catalyst to a fruitful conversation.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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For all those that think government = order, and therefore no government = chaos, think about this. The Wild West, which had no centrally planned law, had lower rates of murder, theft and rape than the East Coast did, which had centrally planned law, during the same time frame. It didn't have set laws or prisons, rather more community appointed peace officers to settle disputes, and citizens actively participated in justice. It was by no measure an anarchist society for a number of reasons, but this is just an example to show how wrong this thinking that government is our protector and savior is.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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When I wrote this thread, I had no intentions of having Anarchist VS the World type posts in response, the idea was that the Government SEEs Anyone who questions them as enemy.
Now it has went so far that they are saying,, that People who think that the Two Party System is PART IF NOT THE PROBLEM,, are Anarchist.

By the type of response given here,, I can see that they also use this word as a HOT BUTTON to label certain Activist,, so that sympathy will be lessened in the eyes of the Average Citizen Joe and Jane.

Most people don't know what it means to be Anarchist,, even some who claim the label,, so it is not surprising to see the reaction that is given even here.

I really thought more ''would get it'',, but obviously,, either my Humor, writing style,, or the Fact that most have little sympathy for True Anarchist may be the root of the issue,,
but

Really is this the best response we get on this issue?

Am I really that far out in Left field? Maybe on some things,, sure,, but go read the article again and savor what is said to Fox news.

and tell me honestly,,
DO YOU THINK THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE THE PROBLEM?



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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I know a lot about anarchy. I know a few personally who constantly go on and on about it. I also know a few things about minanarchism. You're just frustrated because I don't share your interpretation of it.

I really wish people would stop using that saying "if you don't agree with me then you don't understand" crap.

The basic meaning of Anarchy is that there is no government. None.

You can look it up if you wish to.

People always try to change the meaning of words so they can control and win the political debate.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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I've already told you what I think is the real problem.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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CNN did a story about anarchists being at the RNC. Total hype. The story was based on Anon YouTube videos.

They hyped it too. They said Gov Rick Scott could call in the national guard. But I heard that was if they were needed due to the storm.

You know who's going to be at the convention? A lot of Ron Paul supporters, that's who.

Anyone else think the media is clearly trying to label Ron Paul supporters as anarchist?



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
The basic meaning of Anarchy is that there is no government. None.


The term Anarchy was around long before socialists used the term to differentiate themselves from Marxists. Anarchy means no government, but Anarchism is a political system that offers an alternative to government, not just the lack of it.

Yes I said socialists. In the 1800's during the industrial revolution in Europe workers were developing ideas to replace capitalism. They realised they would be better off if they owned the means of production themselves.
They believed that this would create a class-free libertarian society, free from the restraints of authority (state and private ownership). They called this socialism.

There were those who thought the only way was through the political route, forming a workers political party etc. Marx became the most well known advocate of that path.
Then there was the socialists who wanted to take the direct path, insurrection and immediate change to worker ownership. They took on the term Anarchist, as well as Libertarian, Libertarian Socialist etc. Mikhail Bakunin was in direct opposition to Marx in the International Workers Association, and represented the anarchist socialists.

Marx, Bakunin, and the Question of Authoritarianism

The Anarchists wanted the same thing as the Marxists, they just differed in their path to get there. They all had the same final goal in mind, free association...


In the anarchist, Marxist and socialist sense, free association (also called free association of producers or, as Marx often called it, community of freely associated individuals) is a kind of relation between individuals where there is no state, social class or authority, in a society that has abolished the private property of means of production. Once private property is abolished, individuals are no longer deprived of access to means of production so they can freely associate themselves (without social constraint) to produce and reproduce their own conditions of existence and fulfill their needs and desires.


Free association (communism and anarchism)

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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I'm still wrapping my head around acid eggs. Would that even work? Wouldn't the acid dissolve the carbonate in the shells? Why use a fragile eggshell when you can use a glass jar or bottle? So many questions.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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So they can call egg throwers terroist, that's why.



posted on Aug, 24 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Isn't there a common belief among all political people that to stereotype a group of people does not mean that all people in that group are the same?

For instance if you consider yourself an anarchist meaning that you want no government control...But you are smart enough to understand that unless you own a private army of terrorists you have no business going around and harming others. (That is if terrorists ever had any business harming others in the first place).

Now, the people who claim to be anarchists here have to ask themselves if they are really anarchists. if they are not willing to go to the RNC and join their fellow Anarchist friends even after the warning which was ironically sent out by the government you apparently hate. What's the point? To whine on the internet?

It does you no good screaming and whining on here. That's a problem with anarchism on here. Because the internet is the closest form to anarchism you guys will get, and that's where your most vocal and feel most comfortable. If you were a true anarchist you'd join your stupid anarchist friends out in tampa regardless of whatever a random government agency says. Right?

*In No Way Does this post Condone anarchism or terrorism.


Can't you make a point without name calling and FUD?

Seriously you don't even know what political anarchism is.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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at first I kept thinking you and it was saying anti christ I was like whhhat already lol.

Wow thats crazy and kinda scary looks like there at it again, So if you don't conform your pretty much an anarchist. ridiculous.There trying to plant that seed in the back of peoples minds.

As always you bring another interesting topic and thread Star and Flag



posted on Sep, 17 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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Too funny, might be what the 'antichrist' really is,, our need to subvert our own destiny with stupid people ruling and amassing power and profit for themselves. What are we to do?

Thanks for the compliment, it got to me, just when I needed.
It was good to hear from you again, hope all is well as can be
in this Most Interesting Time of History!

Now go forth and Rebuke the Beast
and other minions of TPTB

as your tithe to the cause of a Free Humanity.

Thanks for the uplift.





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