Romney Adviser Compares Homosexuals to Drug Addicts

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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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There has been like 10 threads on GOPers saying awful things, this party is hateful, low IQ, helps big business, and uneducated.



Speaking of low IQs and saying awful things.................

Nice hypocrisy and generalizing.............apparently your vast IQ didnt lend itself to the 2 seconds of critical thinking it would have taken to realize that sentence right there was self defeating

Do you even think before you post or are you so filled with bigotry and idealism that you just type out what spills out of your mind?
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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There is also the theory that certain babies who've been exposed at higher levels of testosterone during a certain part of pregnancy have a tendency to be "gay."

But does it make a difference how a person becomes gay? When issues as ill-defined as "Gay-Marriage" cloud the issues and polarize groups into narrow-mindedness to deny other groups of inalienable rights as property and family, serves to cloud and distort the issue and we find we don't know what we are arguing about.

This is exactly the reason and how "cognitive dissonance" is used to keep people divided and vote for things they wouldn't if they saw the real issue in a non-biased format.

Exactly why and if you are one of those polarized people, you've been played and not all people will subscribe to the poisonous propaganda that is being put-out and the most ignorant of all are elected congress-members. They are only elected by the like-mindedness of their constituents and promote propaganda and policy which only serves those who are extremists in their view of what the other 99 percent should be governed by.

Think about it. Read the article I posted. Know the TRUTH! Before it's too late.

Not all congress-members are like this and not all people are like this. People are only given two extreme viewpoints and if they are mean and median, which one their closest to, is the one they vote for. We need more of the "Bell Curve" folks so that the outliers don't make policy which runs us all into the ditch. Blind leading the blind and both fall into the ditch.

What? Are you going to sit there and gawk at the poor blind folks in the ditch or are you going to get of your asses and do something to actually change this whacked-out world?
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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I maybe miss interpreting this but to me it seems like you are saying that gay marriage is a distraction from the problems. I agree but i don't agree. Being gay is something that should be so obviously wrong that people shouldn't even bother discussing it. And i agree because being gay has no real importance compare to whats going on in the world right now.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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We are very much like other animals, and homosexuality has been recorded, in humans and animals, since we have been recording history.

We caused animal homosexuality? Wow....

And there is the obligatory "i have gay friends" comment. Hate to break it to you, but you dont, You are not a friend to these people if you view them this way. Period. they may be friendly to you, but you are not their friend.

Again, why dont you just come out of the closet with your hate?



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by LordD
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I think we can all agree that if being gay is a choice its a wrong choice and if you are born that way its a defect. i hope its a choice


nope, we cant all agree on that. And neither does science.

You are wrong, and full of hate.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by LordD

Originally posted by KingAtlas
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What I meant, was that you implied there was an age base to when you could make a logical decision. Then I inferred, that you had made an inexact parallel, because the men or women were over the assumed age of being able to make said decision.

Regardless of the gay lifestyle being logical or illogical.

Now if you had never implied that age was a factor in making a logical decision, then it it could be argued to be a parallel; based on the comparison of the logic behind the act itself, be it right or wrong.


Exactly everyone has decision to be gay no matter how illogical it is. But its wrong and if i ruled they would be removed from society so that they couldn't corrupt the minds of kids. Definitely not accept gay people like "their just like you, its not wrong, their born that way."



and if I ruled, hateful biggots such as yourself would be locked somewhere together, so you could kill each other off.

See how that works?



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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What I'm saying is that everyone every human being has the potential or capacity to be "gay" and that most do not act on the desire or impulse.

There are so many preconceptions and double-standards which perpetuate stereotypes and stigmas which only serve to demean and demoralize those which do not fit into a general group with general accepted norms of behavior.

Say that a group of men would woot and holler about two females having a sexual relation and see that as nothing being wrong with it. Some would join in possibly, But what they are really doing is turning subjects, the two females, into sexual objects, and it's easier to exploit them to do whatever they wish if they are objects. Objects have no feelings or rights, and is exactly what you see when you open a fashion magazine, or a pornographic magazine. It's the same thing.

But on the other hand, the same men would be repulsed if two men were put in the place of the women.

That's a double standard which has been conditioned. By media, by ideology, and by society. Be conformed or be ye cast out.

So a person who is not accepted by mainstream society feels inadequate and finds a surrogate group where the rejection is replaced with acceptance. Crackheads, or Potheads work in the same way, but that still doesn't remove the fact that these people are HUMAN BEINGS, not objects of people's dejection and rejection.

No one wants to be rejected, and we do that by judging people instead of their actions. Do not judge people, judge their actions.

You'll know if the tree is good by its fruit. If the fruit is rotten, then the tree is also. Everyone is unique and a wonderful being if given half a chance.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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So a person who is not accepted by mainstream society feels inadequate and finds a surrogate group where the rejection is replaced with acceptance. Crackheads, or Potheads work in the same way


Say what?

Bit of a sweeping statement yes?



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Let's put a little medical science into the discussion. The reason why the cause of human homosexuality is debated is because, like many things in human existence, there is no single cause and the various causes are what we call "multifactoral."

Human sexuality and sexual development is a bit of a complex continuum of various factors. Identical twin studies show that there is more propensity to be gay in identical twins, even if they were raised in seperate homes, to be homosexual. However, that increase is not large much less complete. It indicates a genetic factor but, since the correlation is not 25%, much less 100% as expected in idential twins, that genetic factor cannot logically be the only factor.

So, we have genes, interutero hormone exposure, other interuterine exposures to exoginous chemicals and hormones, various embryonic developemental milestones, birth sizes, nutrition, birth complications, social and cultural influences, famililar influences, media influences, and early gender adn sexual interaction that all together end up, eventually, giving us a sexuality developed person. Strong evidence that the presence and absence of gender role models affecet sexual development and things like abuse can affect sexual identity.

In short, it is a very complex question that does not lend itself to any simple answer and, honestly, I find the answer irrelevant exept as an academic exercise because, from a societal and governmental standpoint, it is not the business of the state or fellow citizen whether a person is gay or not, as long as we are talking about consenting adults.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Seems like everyone here let emotion take over and didn't even understand what he said....

sad...jump right to condeming him...without even understanding what he said.

The point he was trying to make was, where do you draw the line?

Why give gays that right but not palygamists?

Why give gays all this freedom, ##snip##


You are all looking at it the wrong way.

Besides....marraige is a religious term and the government has no right to regulate religion....what they can regulate are civil unions, so the argument is unconstitutional anyway!

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I DO NOT condone the use of illegal substances...I was refering to what was said in the OP.....the point of regulating behavior by the government that picks good and bad according to current political correctness. That is what the speaker was trying to get across....still point being....this is a free country and NO ONE has to accept anything they don't believe in and trying to regulate a religious behavior is unconstitutional.

Someone's sexual orientation should be PRIVATE and not shoved down other people's throats and they shouldn't be made a special class of citizen;s because of it.
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink

sad...jump right to condeming him...without even understanding what he said.


I'm really sick of this Right Wing excuse.

I did not jump to any conclusions without understanding.

A guy like this does not have just one incident.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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As a former addict, i resent this statement. It's so annoying how people believe that being gay is a choice. No one would choose that. Just like people dont choose to be addicts. I'll admit i chose to do that first drug but after that my genetic predisposition took over and i was powerless. If people want to be gay and have civil unions or get married..WHO CARES?!?!?! People should be allowed to do whatever they want. That does include polygamy and ingesting drugs and sticking there #$%^ in whoever or whatever they want...AS LONG AS IT DOESNT DIRECTLY HARM ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. Isnt that what freedom and liberty is? We dont have either, nor have we for a very long time. Gosh, most people really are ignorant fools.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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It should probably be pointed out that Massachusetts legalized same sex marriage while Romney was governor.

When combining that with Romney's Massachusetts Health Car Reform Act , it becomes clear that Romney is more of an opportunist than pure conservative, and is molding his campaign platforms to increase GOP base turnout.

For example, Romney was considered pro-choice upon being elected governor but ended up switching to a pro-life policy and vetoing a bill that would expand access to emergency contraceptives at hospitals in 2006. Maybe mid-term he realized that a pro-choice stance would greatly reduce his chances of becoming eventual presidential nominee.

I don't think Romney as an individual reflects the more radical aspects of GOP ideology, he's about as moderate as the party gets.

Also, when it comes to Romney being a bloodsucking businessman and unrelenting capitalist, it is worth noting that he accepted no salary as governor. Not much of a concession for a mega millionaire, but still a nice gesture.
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by gibsonsgrat187
As a former addict, i resent this statement. It's so annoying how people believe that being gay is a choice. No one would choose that. Just like people dont choose to be addicts. I'll admit i chose to do that first drug but after that my genetic predisposition took over and i was powerless. If people want to be gay and have civil unions or get married..WHO CARES?!?!?! People should be allowed to do whatever they want. That does include polygamy and ingesting drugs and sticking there #$%^ in whoever or whatever they want...AS LONG AS IT DOESNT DIRECTLY HARM ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. Isnt that what freedom and liberty is? We dont have either, nor have we for a very long time. Gosh, most people really are ignorant fools.


You my friend need to rethink what you just wrote. People who think like that are the reason why this country and world is in the condition its in.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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I've been reading your post & can say I'm thoroughly perplexed. Comparing homosexuals to rapist, child molesters, murderers, & cannibals?.... You do realize that those latter four involve direct traumatization, physical/emotional damage, &/or the ending of a life?

On the other hand, homosexuality implies: feeling romantic affection for a human of the same sex, in a non-violent manner. Nice logical connection there...

As for comparing homosexuals to drug addicts, that I'm not as offended by; so long as the addict is non-violent. Some people are born/grow up with addictive personalities of all sorts. Some turn to drugs and have a very difficult struggle with it. Some are addicted to sex, the media, cars, etc. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people --- it makes them human beings. I really can't believe you put all these people onto the same pedestal as violent offenders. Disgustingly bad comparison. Think before you type please... well in your case, think before you.... think. Ffs.

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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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I know you are not reading everything from the start because everything i said has a reason like comparing them to rapist and so on. Some people grow with addictive personalities who cares doesn't make it right or understandable. To become so attracted to something that you have withdrawal symptoms is not being a human being. just because someone isn't violent doesn't make them okay. in order for a nation to grow and prosper their can only be producers and addicts have a tendency to be unproductive. And you have the audacity to tell me to rethink.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Mitt Romney as a Mormon as believed all African Americans should not be a leader as they "the blacks" are cursed from the sons of ham according to Mormon belief and you want this guy as a president?






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