California poised to grant driver's licenses to young illegal immigrants, page 3


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reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 12:09 AM by Xcathdra
reply to post by greenovni



reply to post by Common Good



If the person is a soveriegn citizen they maintain a person does not need a drivers license, insurance or any type of vehicle registration. In general they view those as unconstitutional, a violation of their 10th amendment rights etc etc etc.

If they are not then its possible its a state law issue. In my state a person is required to have a drivers license while operating a motor vehicle. If they dont have their license on them our MDT's in the car can pull the drivers record, including the pictures on the DL to confirm the information given. When we cite an individual for driving without a license its because they have no license at all - no operator status.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 02:39 AM by daskakik
reply to post by guohua


"Anchor babies" are not the topic of the thread but "Anchor babies" are US citizens so yes they do have a right to vote.

Do you want to strip US citizens of their right to vote?


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 03:42 AM by muse7
reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican



Illegal immigration is a result of capitalism and the ownership of congress by the mega corporations. So until that gets fixed illegals will always be welcomed


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 03:55 AM by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by muse7



Or how about people get off their couches and do something about it instead of relying on other people to do it for them.

Isn't america ruled by the people? If the people stand up we can stop it.
I guess people don't understand that anymore.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 05:07 AM by daskakik
Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to
post by muse7


Isn't america ruled by the people?

No it isn't

If the people stand up we can stop it.

If only they would.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 05:24 AM by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by daskakik



Well I thought this was a democracy. But everybody gives up that right for the right to vote on american idol.

If only people were so enthusiastic about real life than they are a tv show.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 05:47 AM by shatwell
reply to post by AwakeinNM



First time ever registering for an account but I have checked the forums often. Very interesting topics.

I had to register to comment on this topic. I have been in the US Military for 18 years and it has been near impossible for me to renew my drivers license in CA. In fact I just have my license number on a photo copy in my wallet. My wallet got stolen from the gym yers ago with my original drivers license.

Seriously, illegals get better service then armed services in CA. I never plan to return, not just because of this but for many reasons.

Just thought I would share.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 06:03 AM by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by shatwell



I am from California and also in the military just much less time lol.
At least someone else agrees how screwed up this state is.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 06:09 AM by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by Vicker



How is this racist??? Its against what the law is. So can we break any other law just because we abide by all the other ones?

Do not even bring race into this one.


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 06:16 AM by Vicker
reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican



Why can't I? After scrolling up and looking at all the hatred towards people wanting to leave their infected water and corrupted government, I am pretty sure it's fine.

This thread is soooo took our jerbs






DAMNIT THEY TOOK OUR JERB
edit on 8/23/12 by Vicker because: AWWWWWWW MAN.....THE TOOK HIS DOG, BROKE HIS JAW, COCKADOODLEDOO ETC



reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 06:30 AM by SolarIce
reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican





People are forgeting that these people are ILLEGAL ALIENS, therefore here ILLEGALLY!


We're illegal aliens as well.... our forefathers slaughtered Indians to inherit this land.

Besides this is just one step closer to bringing the NWO to better light.

NAFTA


reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 06:34 AM by Vicker
Originally posted by SolarIce
reply to
post by TheCaucasianAmerican





People are forgeting that these people are ILLEGAL ALIENS, therefore here ILLEGALLY!


We're illegal aliens as well.... our forefathers slaughtered Indians to inherit this land.

Besides this is just one step closer to bringing the NWO to better light.

NAFTA


Thank you

And to reiterate on my previous post, did not want to troll but this quote comes to mind

"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away."
Henry David Thoreau

Point being, who are you to judge how other people better their lives?

Put yourself in their shoes, imagine all the judgement they get in the first place, disregarding all the BS smacktalk on the internet.

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reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 08:31 AM by BulletsCantSilenceIdeas
I have nothing against Immigrants, hell, our country was technically created by and built by immigrants. My only issue is this, why should these children of immigrants who came here by illegally crossing our borders rather than taking the time to become legal citizens like the rest of us, be granted even temporary citizenship which would allow them to apply for jobs that we are already in a huge shortage of, drive on our roads that are already extremely over crowded, attend our schools that are also far too over crowded (at least here in southern California), and apply for student aid, welfare, etc.

I do understand that their country is in rough shape and they want to escape it and come here to try for the American Dream, but I just wish they'd take the legal route on this one. All we can do is hope this doesn't cause major problems in the coming years. I disagree with it, but if nothing bad comes of it then I cant really say much other than Im disappointed that all the families that did things the right way to come here had to go through all that trouble, while this group of people will kind of get a free pass.

I am all for any nationality to come and apply for citizenship legally like the rest of us did. I just don't get how this is financially feasible, not to mention it seems to be a slap in the face to the families that did everything by the book to become a legal citizen of our great country. I do feel sorry that these kids were brought here illegally against there will and do suffer because of it, but shouldn't their parents be responsible for the negative outcome of their child's life because of that, not us tax paying citizens who are struggling enough? If they want to go through all the proper channels and become citizens like my family did, and everyone Else's before that, then I am all for it. But this free pass that President Obama is handing out, rather close to election time mind you, seems disrespectful to the families that gave up everything, learned English, payed their dues, and came here legally to start a family the lawful way.

If the parents were willing to jump the border illegally to try to manipulate our country (whether their intentions were good or bad) how can we openly accept them and grant them citizenship if the absolute first thing they did in our country was break a major law. It's just my opinion, I'm a firm believer in equal opportunity, and to me and my family who immigrated from Europe and did everything the lawful way to become a legal citizen here, it seems like a slap in the face.

I really hope this doesn't backfire by harming our already fragile economy here in California.... The job market here is already very minimal. I went from making $30, getting layed off to the economy, to not even being able to get a job at Taco Bell for a year and a half before I found work. That was bustin my butt trying every day. I just dont see what positive effects this can have on the majority of Californian's. It seems to me to only benefit people who are not even citizens, and of course President Obama when time comes for re-election.


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reply posted on 23-8-2012 @ 08:38 AM by axslinger
Originally posted by BritofTexas
reply to
post by AwakeinNM



Your source does not mention voter registration.

I am a Permanent Resident. I have a Texas drivers license. I can NOT register to vote.

This is just another fear mongering thread.


How exactly do you register to vote? Is your driver's license different than everybody else's? Maybe YOU can't register to vote in Texas but that doesn't mean they use the same standards in California. In fact, I would be willing to bet that they don't. In fact, there are probably a few thousand illegals already on the voter rolls in California, without driver licenses. In many places, all you have to do is show your driver's license in order to register.
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