reply to post by ModernAcademia
Its all pre-emptive mind set. Make them criminals before their technical "criminals" ideology that has infested the "Justice Department" which is
ironic because there is no "justice" in turning people into criminals just so you can arrest them.
The Justice Department's responsibility is to right wrongs done to victims by criminals. If there is no victim there is no crime because there is no
justice being done on the behalf of anyone.
The state likes to play the victim and the DA will prosecute on behalf of the state even in cases where the state was harmed in no way shape or form.
Such is the case here in Colorado where there is an "assault" and neither party want's to press charges, it doesn't matter because the state will
press charges regardless claiming that somehow it was the victim of Joe and Bobs backyard brawl.
There are several pre-emptive laws that we have all accepted for several reasons some of them being because we were conditioned to find them
acceptable. We never knew it any different and thus would never question such laws. Such as the law of drinking and driving. It is a pre-emptive law
that turns people into criminals for a victimless crime. The state claims victim (because it has to, there is no one else to rightfully do so) and you
are then kidnapped and held for ransom then extorted for thousands of dollars afterward to pay for "damages" that never happened.
NOW in the case of actually drinking and driving and hitting someone or killing someone in a wreck...there has always been laws already in place to
address those issues and they are already crimes. Manslaughter, Vehicular Homicide, Reckless Driving, etc etc...These laws actually have a claimant as
victim and as such are truly crimes and the Justice Department then has reason to "make things right" using the tools it has at its disposal.
Drinking and driving in and of itself is a victimless crime. Obviously making it a crime isn't going to stop it from happening and isn't going to stop
it from killing people on the roads...as it still happens today regardless of the pre-emptive law.
If the rational behind making it illegal is to deter people from drinking and driving then that deterrence was already set forth with actual crimes
such as vehicular homicide, reckless driving, manslaughter etc etc...yet people still drink and drive and cause all kinds of chaos despite those
deterrents and the knowledge they could possibly kill someone or themselves...
The next step would be to make drinking illegal as who knows what actual crimes you may commit while "under the influence" that would be a pre-emptive
crime. They tried this and failed but succeeded with marijuana.
The other option would be to make driving illegal as who knows what actual crimes you may commit behind the wheel of thousands of pounds of
steel...They wouldn't do this because then there would be no revenue from all the numerous traffic violations they could cite people for and in that
sense is a conflict of interest.
There is a trend in the justice department and law enforcement to make things illegal before their really illegal. This way they can "justify" the
kidnapping and holding for ransom they do. This also allows them to kidnap and hold you for ransom on less and less evidence, less and less probable
cause, and less and less regulation.
The whole basis of the movie "Minority Report" was to illustrate a pre-emptive crime world. If you haven't seen it you should because its pretty
common sense where that kind of world leads...
We have given an inch here and an inch there with our acceptance and promotion of pre-emtpive crime laws and they are taking a mile.
We could theoretically make breathing illegal to prevent people from hyperventilating...at that point breathing would be a crime and make you a
There has to be some common sense to law, blindly obeying laws because their laws will just mean you suffocate in the above scenario...and for what?
To be a law-abiding citizen?
sorry for the long reply but apparently I had a lot to say lol
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