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2012 Republican National Convention. AUGUST 27, 2012 – AUGUST 30, 2012. Can Ron Paul win?

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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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I'm with you friend. I personally think there will be so many votes for Ron Paul, TPTB will have no choice but to sit him as POTUS. Fox News yesterday ran a poll among the Seniors, and they overwhelmingly support Dr. Paul Those Gray Heads always vote, too. It is clear the path Obama wishes to take, had over sovereignty to a United Nations that cannot properly wipe their own butts. Mittens wants to destroy Medicare as we know it. He probably has a plan to gut Social Security too. And neither has done, or said a thing about resending the Patriot Act.
My vote is for Ron Paul. Anyone else wins, I'm headed for the hills until the (insert probable action here) is over.




posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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If both sides are funded by the same people, then there really is no choice. Voting has been one of the core traits of Americans since it's birth. How can anyone say we have a right to vote when the outcome has been predetermined? If you go to the GOP website it will lead you to info on Mitt Romney. What's the point of even having a convention? Is to make everyone feel good as if their vote really mattered? Most conservation didn't even want Romney but they let their feelings toward Obama blind them. Same thing went for Obama in 08. Everyone let their feelings for Bush blind them. Is that what this country has come to, voting for what you don't want instead of voting your consense? Stop voting based on the letter next to their name and venture away from conventional thinking. It is the 21st century, you can find out all the info you need on a candidate at the tips of your fingers. I don't know about you guys but I don't need some political group or the media telling me how to vote. I'm a grown @ss man and can decide for myself how I want to be represented. I will not be bullied into voting for someone just because I don't like the guy in office. I would much rather go to bed that night knowing I truly exercised my right that our Founders fought so hard to establish.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Like I stated in other threads on this matter... I threw my vote away by choosing the lesser of two evils- I went with McCain.

So much good that did me, and I cant even really stomache the guy.

I will vote blindly no more.

If you think im wasting my vote, so be it. I will not be spoon-fed garbage any longer by voting for someone that is the complete opposite of what I believe in- and that includes BOTH of these commercial candidates.




You can have Romney. I dont want him. We dont need a "buisness man"...we need a leader.

They will vote for Romney for the same reason they voted for Obama- "cuz he aint the last guy".

That is why we call those people "sheeple".

-Its not like the GOP likes playing by their own rules anyways.
You will vote how your party wants you to vote.

"Homie dont play dat"



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I would like to say yes because I would like to believe nobody is dumb enough to vote for Mitt Romney.

But... unfortunately that's not the case.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by RSF77
I would like to say yes because I would like to believe nobody is dumb enough to vote for Mitt Romney.

But... unfortunately that's not the case.


Wisconsin has turned - RED -.


Paul Ryan just gave us 10 more Electoral Votes.


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Grand Slam Home Run hit by Paul Ryan in Florida.


Ladies and gentlemen: We have a winner !

When the American people see Paul Ryan, they see - credibility-.




posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
 

When the American people see Paul Ryan, they see - credibility-.


That's funny, because when I see him I see American soldiers dying and bloody limbs laying all over the hood of a busted up humvee. I also see the same crooks that have been paying these guys getting away with whatever they want at our expense. I guess a lot of people just aren't putting 2 and 2 together.
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Signals
No, this is silly.

And I'm a RP supporter.

I voted for Ross Perot once upon a time, I'm not gonna waste my vote again.

We must support Romney, by far the lessor of two evils...




That is what sickens me. Instead of the best man, we get who can fool the most people. We should Never have to vote the lesser of two evils.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by RSF77

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
 

When the American people see Paul Ryan, they see - credibility-.


That's funny, because when I see him I see American soldiers dying and bloody limbs laying all over the hood of a busted up humvee. I also see the same crooks that have been paying these guys getting away with whatever they want at our expense. I guess a lot of people just aren't putting 2 and 2 together.
edit on 23-8-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)


I see the preservation and strengthening of MediCare.

I see the ObamaCare 15 member - Death Panel - being thrown out into the street.

I see 4% unemployment and a GDP growing at 7%.

I see the $ 1 Trillion deficits going away.

I see us moving away from the - Fiscal Cliff -.

- Not exactly a nightmare scenario -



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
I see the preservation and strengthening of MediCare.

I see the ObamaCare 15 member - Death Panel - being thrown out into the street.

I see 4% unemployment and a GDP growing at 7%.

I see the $ 1 Trillion deficits going away.

I see us moving away from the - Fiscal Cliff -.

- Not exactly a nightmare scenario -


No that's not a nightmare, more like a dream. Also it's kind of ironic how Ron Paul is the most fiscally conservative R and yet your supporting uncle moneybags and his sidekick whose just going to be spending our money away on killing our boys and girls in pointless wars status quo style.

If you really think these guys are going to wave some magic wand and America is going to get to 4% unemployment somehow then I would have to say your in for a surprise. I can tell you what they would do right now... absolutely nothing useful to anyone except themselves and their cronies. Hes going to take bribes to let stuff pass by his desk that will allow even more money to be sucked out of people that are already hurting. The guy doesn't know what a quarter is.
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by RSF77

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
I see the preservation and strengthening of MediCare.

I see the ObamaCare 15 member - Death Panel - being thrown out into the street.

I see 4% unemployment and a GDP growing at 7%.

I see the $ 1 Trillion deficits going away.

I see us moving away from the - Fiscal Cliff -.

- Not exactly a nightmare scenario -


No that's not a nightmare, more like a dream. Also it's kind of ironic how Ron Paul is the most fiscally conservative R and yet your supporting uncle moneybags and his sidekick whose just going to be spending our money away on killing our boys and girls in pointless wars status quo style.

If you really think these guys are going to wave some magic wand and America is going to get to 4% unemployment somehow then I would have to say your in for a surprise.


President Bill Clinton achieved 4% unemployment.

President George W. Bush achieved 4.4% unemployment.

We can get there from here. We just need to send Obama back to Chicago.




posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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The POTUS really doesn't even have much control over unemployment outside of signing things other people write up and a few government jobs that won't make a difference to 99% of the people that are unemployed. Saying a POTUS "achieved" a certain unemployment % isn't even right or in the job description. The job of the POTUS is in charge of the federal government and the military, he/she doesn't have much control over the unemployment rate or what corporations do. In fact with people like Romney and Ryan, corporations sort of control what the POTUS does, which is sad.

I mean come on, the guys largest contributor is Goldman Sachs. What do you think is going to happen? lol.

Can you say "puppet"?
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by RSF77
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The POTUS really doesn't even have much control over unemployment outside of signing things other people write up and a few government jobs that won't make a difference to 99% of the people that are unemployed. Saying a POTUS "achieved" a certain unemployment % isn't even right or in the job description. The job of the POTUS is in charge of the federal government and the military, he/she doesn't have much control over the unemployment rate or what corporations do. In fact with people like Romney and Ryan, corporations sort of control what the POTUS does, which is sad.

I mean come on, the guys largest contributor is Goldman Sachs. What do you think is going to happen? lol.

Can you say "puppet"?
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It's the small businesses that will do the job creation.

The POTUS mainly needs to get out of the way.

Obama is at war with small businesses.

- If you've got a business, you didn't build that ! -


-Socialist Rant -



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Anyone that makes that socialist remark about Obama obviously doesn't know all that much about our Republic or our brand of capitalism. I hate Obama just as much, probably more so than you do, but he has nothing to do with socialism. Any society that in the position we are right now with income disparity and big government will be naturally inclined toward socialism. In fact, socialism is part of how our economy and many state governments function. A commonwealth for example, like Virginia, leans toward socialism. There is no black and white really, there is no switch you can flip and be socialist one minute and not the other. Socialism is common ownership so really you could call Wall St. one of the most socialist places in the US.

Guess who LOVES Wall St... that's right, Mitt Romney.

The United States is gravitating towards socialism, but not a fair version of it, a version of it where you pay for it and yet don't own it like in socialism. Basically, where we are headed is worse than socialism, it's a financial oligarchy where the rich function under a pseudo-socialist system and the rest of us are debt slaves. The reason this is happening is because the government and corporations are tricking people into asking the government to do everything for them, especially liberals. The establishment republicans have their own thing going on, but that is another topic, moreover not many republicans are even opposing this or doing anything about it. This of course leads me to believe the two parties are one in the same, but of course both are furthering separate sides of the same agenda.

The Republic of the United States is becoming something unprecedented in the history of government. A republic is supposed to be a method of choosing that government, but people are blindly following straw men not realizing what is happening. Someone is pulling strings to make this a very different, very horrible society for the average joe. Mitt Romney and Obama are one and the same, it doesn't matter which one is "elected", both will work towards two separate means to the same end. The D party performs the financial takeover and the R party performs the heavy foot function.

A vote for Romney is the same as a vote for Obama. The people running this show aren't ignorant of other political philosophies and only a fool would think these people haven't studied every form of government on Earth to figure out how squeeze every last ounce of money and power out of anything they can and achieve whatever it is they want to achieve. With all of the resources at their disposal do you honestly think that the leaders of this nation have just been sitting idly by doing nothing watching the country stagnate for no good reason at all?

Romney = Obama. A vote/support for either of them will do NOTHING for anyone you know. It will not help the unemployment rate, the economy or bring any more freedoms to you and me. It will not save anyone from dying in some foreign land. It will not help the drug problem. It will not reverse the prison industrial trend. It will not increase the middle class. It will not bring back the American dream. It will not help any small businesses, Mitt Romney is not going to abolish laws or come up with any new legislation having to do with financial regulations and permits on owning or running any small business. It will be just as hard tomorrow as it is today to start your roofing LLC.

Nothing is going to happen except whatever is already happening to us. The only guy trying to do something about all this is Ron Paul.
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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So i guess you will just stay home on election day.

Many Obama supporters will do the same.

They are discouraged.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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I'm not an Obama supporter if that's what you are implying, actually I'm more R leaning if you could even call it that anymore.

You can stay home on election day too if you want, the popular vote doesn't have any weight on who becomes POTUS. Maybe it could if it was near unanimous, even then everyone would still be just as baffled and probably not much would be done about it.

Ask anybody on the street about politics and politicians, 9/10 they'll tell you they are a bunch of lying crooks and they're sick of it. That's on purpose and it's not supposed to be that way.
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posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by RSF77
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I'm not an Obama supporter if that's what you are implying, actually I'm more R leaning.

You can stay home on election day too if you want, the popular vote doesn't have any weight on who becomes POTUS.
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The battle ground states will get bombarded by political ads.

Those votes really do count.

The rest are already decided.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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I think the OP was asking if you think RP can win... then you come in running around in circles screaming how much you love Ryan and Romney.... Like a teenage girls at a Beiber concert
Stay on topic please don't try to derail another political thread.


Anyways, I do think RP has a chance. I hope he has a chance. If we give up hope, we lose.
I think it is so beautiful that RP gives people real hope!
Hope is so rare and precious, we shouldn't just scoff at it.
Most of the ones who support Ron Paul have no belief in the political system at all...
but Dr. Ron Paul actually gives them hope that it could work.

No one has the right to laugh at someones ray of light in the darkness.
Even if you want to make the best of the darkness.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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He won't be speaking at the convention.
firstread.nbcnews.com... 13436464-ron-pauls-presence-to-be-felt-in-tampa?lite




Despite the delegates he won during the Republican presidential primary season, Ron Paul won't be speaking at next week's Republican convention in Tampa, Fla. But his presence will be felt there -- whether it's his supporters who will be flocking to the city or his son Rand, who will be speaking at the convention. And there's also the possibility of a video tribute to the Texas congressman. "We're told there's something special in the works on Tuesday paying tribute to Ron Paul," said Jesse Benton, Paul's national campaign manager.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Your link is 404'd

So maybe things changed haha



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by KingAtlas
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Your link is 404'd

So maybe things changed haha


Hmm try this one....
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