a motion introduced to place a ban on cigarette sales to anyone born after the year 2000?

Out-Bloody-Standing.. yes, totally back this idea and its about time something like this was introduced.
Thumbs up and the best of luck introducing this.

www.news.com.au...

TASMANIA'S upper house is calling for a ban on cigarette sales to anyone born after the year 2000.
The state's legislative council has unanimously backed a motion that would effectively start phasing out tobacco ales from 2018, the ABC has reported.
The ban would begin taking effect once people born in 2000 turned 18.

Imagine the knock on effects?

The Health system would be free from all those selfish life long smokers taking up hospital beds.
Cities would be tidy, no more cigerette buts.
Cute girls in the CBD would be kissable, as they are smelling putrid from smoke

In Canada, you can't sell cigarettes to people under the age of 18 or 19, depending on the province. Been like that now for a few years.

reply to post by GAOTU789


same here, but think of it this way.

in 20yrs, you'll be 32 and you will not be able to buy cig's.

its going to stamp out smoking!

I'm not a smoker.. But talk about taking away our freedoms.. Quite literally.. This is a ridiculous idea. And it is one more nail in the constitution.

Edit to add: Smoke em' while you got them people..

reply to post by Agit8dChop

Imagine the knock on effects?

The Health system would be free from all those selfish life long smokers taking up hospital beds.
Cities would be tidy, no more cigerette buts.
Cute girls in the CBD would be kissable, as they are smelling putrid from smoke

I guess you are unfamiliar with Al Capone.

Have fun with that...

reply to post by Agit8dChop


hate smokers all you want, people will find a way and this will just create a new underground market, also can you say taking away our freedoms big time..this has no place anywhere and to say this is right is just horrible, how can you agree with something that is in a way dictated...

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I hate when people say that, another freedom taken away. be reasonable...

Its just another life altering drug being removed from the world.

You say that, means you believe coc aine and heroin being removed from the ''allowed'' list is also taking away your freedoms, well ok then.. would you like your kids to live in a world where heroin and coc aine are freely available over the counter? if not, then why cigerettes? they cause as much harm as anything else? and worse yet the tobacco companies engineer it in a way so your hooked and addicted to it.

Cigs prey on the weak deliberately, and they kill people at the same time clogging up health centres.

Cigs are more dangerous than terrorists, in my mind!

Originally posted by GAOTU789
In Canada, you can't sell cigarettes to people under the age of 18 or 19, depending on the province. Been like that now for a few years.

This is different from what I gather from the article, it sounds as though they are planning to prohibit sales totally once the generation from the year 2000 reaches maturity.

Meaning people born after will be unable to purchase at all. (Legally).

Yes, but there would be millions of people over the age of 18 who would still be smoking and let's face it. Less and less young adults are taking up the habit and account for a small percentage of smokers.

Not to mention the fact that it would just drive the kids into the black market for cigarettes.

18 year olds are taxpayers too, once you are a legal adult, the rules should be the same for everyone.
I personally believe this also applies to drinking. Where I live, you are allowed to drink at the age of 18.
The US makes adults wait until they are 21 in most states, and I personally believe this is wrong for various reasons.
If you are old enough to work, drive, vote, smoke and view pornography, then drinking shouldn't be any different.

Yes, you may not be mature until you are in your twenties, but the fact is, if you pay taxes, your rights should be equal to all other adults. This includes smoking and would be a nightmare to enforce.

Not that I think its a bad idea to ban smoking, but it would be only right to ban it outright. Otherwise those 18 year olds will get older people to buy them anyway.

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haha, yeah thats right a black market will open up, but there's a black market for anything.. even computer software!

Today I walked to work and saw 2 kids, no older than 13 smoking cigs behind a church. I doubt they'd have access to a black market if one was to spring up!

Great! Then they can raise taxes on everything else to make up for all the revenue that they'll loose

If people want to smoke let them smoke, they make up for the money it costs the health service by the amount of tax they pay on buying the product in the first place!

I feel that there will be alot more angry, stressed out people by 2020, you anti-smokers best watch your backs

reply to post by Agit8dChop


I think Ron Paul put it best. www.youtube.com...

A society that needs to be coddled will develop like a society being coddled. A society that takes personal and social responsibility for themselves will grow with dignity...

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by boncho

 

Today I walked to work and saw 2 kids, no older than 13 smoking cigs behind a church. I doubt they'd have access to a black market if one was to spring up!

Is tobacco age restricted where you are? If so, they found a black market already...

reply to post by GAOTU789


I think what the OP is saying, is that no one born after the year 2000 will ever be able to buy cigarettes, therefor Tasmania will be smoke free in just under a centuries times.

I think this is great! Living in Canada however our governments thrives on tobacco sales income and sadly, are not even thinking twice of permanently stopping sales to people over the age of 18.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Actualy, if all drugs where legalised, then they will be able to be regulated, and with that will reduce the amount of deaths considriably (sp), why? Many drug related deaths are caused by contaminated drugs, drugs that are mixed with other cheaper substances in order to bulk up the weight in order to make a larger profit. Also, people would be warmer to the idea of seeking help, because they won't risk being arrested/exiled from their circle/will not fear their dealers for seeking help.

And lets not even mention the amount of money that will be brought into the country, that could be used for health care and addiction programs to help those that are ill with addiction.

As many have said before (I think Ron Paul also said it), Just because a drug is legal, does not mean that everyone will do it.

This is in Tasmania. And ok they ban it for people after 2000.

SOOOO...

What happens when they ask their friends from '99 to pick them up a pack?

Sure it will work in 30 years but till then its really not going to have an effect.

But im from America and can and will smoke my cigs. Im gonna right now BTW.

reply to post by boncho


not nessecarily,

the bigger brothers could have given it to them.

They will probably bring in laws like alcohol, you cannot buy or supply for anyone under the age of X..

When police see someone drinking, they take the booze, and check ID.
So now, if police see someone smoking, they'll check ID and take action.

But, there are things you cannot stop.

Like drinking at home.. if your parents let you drink a double scotch and coke in your bedroom and your 14, obviously no law will matter.
However I'd like to believe parents are stupid, and would try their hardest not to let their kids smoke cigs, there is no positive what so ever it is negative and it destroys lives < why people smoke I do not know!

Money, Black Markets, Taxes these are not excuses to allow smoking to continue.
Think of all the money spend on health care, TV adverts, cleaners... that would be saved.
Then think of all the money the cig companies pay in TAX! (If its anything like other corporations I imagine they have every loop hole in the world working for them)

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Hmmm... So they are going to bust the people for smoking cigarettes.

Instead of busting the people making the cigarettes.

Typical. I wonder what the fine will be for carrying cigarettes if you are born after 2000.

Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
They obviously have also never heard of the prohibition --- or in fact this is exactly why they are doing this.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


lol noone ever said they wanted heroin and coc aine in our streets, but it is our choice oor not to smoke and make health decisions, NOT someone whos in charge of our country...