reply to post by windword
I'm pretty sure that it's all-of-the-above, and that Jesus is also God (still is), who accomplished a whole host of things on a whole variety of
different levels including protecting us from predation by ANY power and principality, such that in him there is nothing that can separate a person, a
whole person from the love of God (the whole thing). It's like a massively erupting waterspout and fountain of living water out of the top of the
pyramid of life, such that everything of value is preserved and held within the flow of life meeting life and everything of no value, washed down the
drain. People are either in this fountain enjoying what God offers us through the son, or, slip sliding away, until they find themselves in a desert
of thirst, only to eventually come to their sences and chart a return path back to the center and the source, except now with a smile on their face,
instead of a frown and/or crying (or both).
Come freely all who thirst and let all who hear say come and freely drink the living water, of the flow of eternal life. Amen.
It's not something to speculate about from arms length. You are either in the fountain of living water, or you're not, your either drinking it in
deeply, or getting increasingly thirsty for what God has in store.
As to evolution, this is an evolutionary principal, which is symbolized in Christ's death and resurrection.
That it (the Great Work) was written into the creation from the beginning of this universe, only goes to show that God is in complete control of time
and space and was all along, and still more mysteriously, that the son was always with him whereby God is a God of love and love to be love must
include two or more, a beloved and beloved other.
But you can't write Jesus off as merely a good moral teacher - he didn't leave any room for that. With him it's all-or-nothing, and you either fall in
love, eventually, or lose your own sense of humor and charm in your steadfast refusal to do so.
edit on 21-8-2012 by NewAgeMan because: of love.