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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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reply to post by Sinny
 


when you say register homeless does that mean you are renting a place or are legitimately homeless?




posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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reply to post by ALOSTSOUL
 


Here is another website I found called (Shelter - The Housing and homelessness charity) in England.

Link: england.shelter.org.uk... I think this website has some good information on it.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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It'd be better if one of these immigrants blew them up maybe then the government would have to consider the effects of mass immigration seriously and not just think "oh great my mate with such and such businesses can have an endless supply of cheap labour".



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
This may be of help its about human right to social housing.

www.equalityhumanrights.com...


This is from the above link;


'the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including adequate ... housing'. The United Kingdom is legally bound by this treaty


This could come in very handy!

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by icepack
 


We are currently living in my wifes mum's council house (which she is currently not living in). It's a 3 bedroom which we share with her uncle and brother. My and the wife sleep in the living room, her uncle and brother have a room each too. And my daughter has a room.

My wife's mum is moving back into the house which means we must leave.

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Hi Matey,

Could you just clarify something, do you have to leave because your wife's returning mother wishes you to or because you are being told this by the council/housing.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Sorry to hear about your situation, and I hope everything works out for you and your family. This is the logical conclusion of centralization and socialism, and it should be a lesson to all of my fellow Americans who advocate for such things here in America.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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When you register as homeless, it literally means homeless!

Of course since the age of 16, I've been between my moms, family and friends, I've always worked, but earn maybe 40% of what I actually need to get my own place..

YOU CANT TELL THE COUNCIL you've have a sofa to kip on, because you 6 YEAR WAIT will TURN INTO A LIFE LONG WAIT.

So, In my case, I'm never to far from somewhere warm to kip, but thats only because i have BRILLIANT friends. BUT NO OF THOSE PLACES ARE PERMANENT.

My mom kicks me out every 6 months because shes a depressive alchy, my family litterally can only offer the sofa for short periods of time as with friends.

I need council help, that WON'T come, a PAY RISE, THAT WONT COME, or a room mate, but no one can afford it! lol

Im LUCKY, there are many people with no sofas to kip on.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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reply to post by caladonea
 


Thanks again. I took the test on their website which said I should be housed!

The case is building



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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reply to post by HumanPLC
 


By my wife's mother.

The house will become very overcrowded when her and her husband move in.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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reply to post by glen200376
 


Well, IMO, the flaws in today's society are so OBVIOUS (me or you could run the country better) that the flaws are being implemented on purpose...

This can be seen in many aspects, such as the great JOB SCANDAL..

I work at the chamber of commerce doing the "Back to work program" for the Job Center.

The government are in cahoots with employers to NOT HIRE people, but to USE FREE LABOR.

Honestly.

Makes one wonder.. whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

Humph.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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reply to post by Sinny
 


I won't have a sofa to kip on, me and my family will be living in the back of a transit van outside my work at this rate.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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reply to post by ALOSTSOUL
 


You turn up at the council with your children and tell them your sleeping on the step, they should put you in temporary accommodation or a hotel until they find you somewhere more permanent..

I was saving that option as a last resort, I've known about 5 people to do it.

100% success rate. Sadly I'm childless, so the same stunt won't work for me aha.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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reply to post by Sinny
 


The problem with temp housing is around my area the only one is over thirty miles away. Which means I getting to work will likely cost more than actually working.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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reply to post by ALOSTSOUL
 


Ouch. You really are screwed.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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reply to post by ALOSTSOUL
 


There are several private landlords that will rent and welcome housing benefit receivers, in which area do you look to rent?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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reply to post by Sinny
 


Tell me about it.

I'm thinking of writhing my mp.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
This may be of help its about human right to social housing.

www.equalityhumanrights.com...


This is from the above link;


'the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including adequate ... housing'. The United Kingdom is legally bound by this treaty


This could come in very handy!

edit on 21-8-2012 by ALOSTSOUL because: (no reason given)


Hi again matey,

I say this with all due respect but i dont think an article like that is going to help you in the short term, its is only meant as guidance for social hosing providers and even if it were a protected right you would be spending years in the court system trying to assert your right under this act.

In the article linked it does state


the guidance makes it clear that this law does not give people a right to housing


As i say, i do not mean that to come across as argumentative, i am concerned for you and your family, which is why i think that in the short term, it would be better to explore ways to remedy the immediate problem of impending homelessness and then concern yourself with your human rights, once you have a roof over your head.

Im more thank happy to help you mucka, ive had quite a bit of experience working as a voluntary advisor with shelter.. Although obviously any advice is my own personal opinion and nothing to do with shelter at all.

Sorry for that last bit but im pretty certain i could get into bother if i didnt state something along those lines.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Totally agree,was at the job centre recently with a friend(he also has to jump through hoops for 71 quid),most jobs were under 7 quid an hour,soul destroying.It just shows me that Liberal,Labour and Conservative are the same.
Me and you running the country sounds good,but you would have to be deputy!



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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My partner has looked at many houses over the past few days. One looked promising we made an offer of a depoist and two months rent. It all looked good but then the letting agent rang to say that the landlords have had an offer of six months rent.

Even the agent said it wasn't true, they just didn't want to deal with housing benefit.

She even asked if there was no way we could come up with the rent every month but I only earn 60 a day and your looking at 800-900 a month for just a one bed around here.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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the guidance makes it clear that this law does not give people a right to housing


I did read that bit but as a point maker I thought it might come in handy.

I appreciate your help and advice.





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