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On-Site Investigation at Dealy Plaza

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:50 PM
I'm not sure if I am breaking any rules here, but I originally made a thread in General Conspiracies entitled Welcome to Dealy Plaza that contained this post. It generated no interest whatsoever before being moved to The Gray Area, which I thought contained alien-related material. I've been informed it is actually for personal stories. So I am re-posting with a different title.

Firstly, a little background -

This may be a little long for some, but please stick with me... I was a lurker here on for a long time before joining the ranks. Eventually I got my username and started adding to the mass of material one thread at a time. I have always been interested in alternative subjects, even from a young age. Ghost, aliens, and other types of fringe theories always piqued my interest and as I grew older I had my own personal experiences involving Out Of Body, astral projection, witnessing a ghost, synchronicities and coincidences, and extreme empathy. I do not claim to be touched or a medium or anything like that, I have just witnessed my share of strange things, which mostly reaffirmed my belief that there is much to this life we do not and cannot see, and it is very real.

When I was in high school I began to delve more into these subjects as the tools of the internet became more advanced and the world began to spiral more out of control. I was 14 when September 11th happened, and as is probably the case with every single person reading this, remember it with pristine clarity. This was absolutely the catalyst for my truth seeking. It took a couple more years but eventually I began to peel away the layers of manipulation bestowed upon us Americans through the media and our schooling system and was able to not only open my mind, but flex it as well. I am very careful about what I believe, when it comes to anything, and my personal opinion on life resembles closely that of the classic statement made by Socrates - "I know that I know nothing." This ambivalence can sometimes lead to trouble, but I like to compile much evidence before making up my mind one way or another.

After 9/11 I began to seek out sites such as this one and I began to watch and introduce myself to media such as Coast to Coast AM. I still remember the first time I listened to George Noory and thinking he was an absolute nut job. Now a days I tend to respect the man. My passions in life include writing and reading, and I love researching history. I am a major history buff. I am now 24 years old and in the past couple of years I have began putting forth the effort creating research projects and papers that allow me to gain extreme knowledge of a subject. The most interesting subjects to me are some of the most important in our history. I could write a whole other thread on this, but it is my personal belief that the attacks on September 11th, 2001 as well as the assassination of John Kennedy are the two largest crimes in recent history, and that they are explicitly tied to the health of our country now and forever, and until the truth of these acts come to light we will never be able to be a nation of freedom and justice. It is my belief that we have been lied to.

I grew up in the state of Maine. Born into a middle class family that was well educated and satisfied with a calm, mundane existence. I come from teachers and writers. Growing up I did not travel much, mostly staying within the states of New England when vacationing with my family. Of course, we had the rare trip to Florida and Disney World that every lucky child hopes for and drove up and down the eastern coast, but we were not exactly worldly. I would categorize myself as an average American boy through much of my formidable years, playing baseball and football, I was part of the Boy Scouts, and I did well in school despite my growing apathy towards it. Since experiencing a rough couple of years after high school while transitioning to adulthood I felt a great need to branch out and get out of Maine in order to gain life experience and see the world around me. I was understandably tired of seeing the same streets, the same houses, the same trees, and the same people day in and day out for 24 years. I craved adventure and something new. I visited a girlfriend who lived in Austin, Texas in late 2010 and absolutely fell in love with it. It was a great city, and for the past two years I have been trying to find my way back down there. Fast forward to the present, I have been able to move to Dallas. It literally fell in my lap. I have just moved down here, and I am preparing myself to visit Dealy Plaza and the Texas School Book Depository within the next couple of days.

Now, my reason for posting -

I was originally going to make a thread after visiting Dealy Plaza telling of my experience for anybody who could have been interested, but as I thought about it more it seemed like an interesting opportunity. I thought presenting ATS with my adventure and providing myself to the great members of this internet forum could possibly facilitate an original way to delve into a great American mystery - the public execution of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. I personally have studied the case myself and know a great deal about the intricate and disturbing details that make up this tragedy, although it seems I learn something new every day. And, of course, I have read Rising Against's threads on JFK and pretty much everything else, marveling at his expert handling of the information. I know all of the relevant places, persons, and dates of interest.

Within the next couple of days I will be traveling into the heart of Dallas to visit Dealy Plaza specifically, meaning the surrounding areas such as Elm Street, Main Street, North Houston Street and Stemmons Freeway as well as the Texas School Book Depository which has a museum occupying the sixth floor. I have also considered visiting the site of the attempted assassination of General Edwin Walker, although I have had trouble finding his address at the time and maybe this thread will help resolve this.

I do not know if I will truly be able to add anything new to this long held discussion and after all of these years I know that the place of the murder has drastically changed, but what I am is a fresh pair of eyes visiting for the first time. I may not even be the first to attempt this, but as I have said, I think this provides us with a unique opportunity. I am making this online community aware so that you may take part in my experiment in amateur journalism. I will be taking pictures and recording video in order to upload it, as well as talking to people who are around and asking questions.

If anybody would like me to specifically do anything, visit any areas, or have any questions you would like me to ask someone than this is the chance. I will make a list of any requests and do my best to investigate as I am on-site.

Thank you for your time. I know that was long, way longer than intended, and I probably provided more information than necessary but I thought it relevant while in the moment. I am very excited to visit Dealy Plaza and if this generates any interest I am optimistic of it's outcome, at the very least as an internet experiment. Send me on a goose chase, ATS! Let's see what I can find, shall we?


edit on 21-8-2012 by PatriotGames2 because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Let us know how it goes. Can't wait to see the vids.

posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:22 PM
I lived in Dallas for over 8 years, and decided to do the Dealy Plaza walk-around for myself, because we were going to move and it was my last chance.

The first thing I noticed was that Dealy Plaza was an ideal place for an assassination. The hairpin turn in front of the Texas Schoolbook Depository building is plenty sharp.

Then I did the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealy Plaza tour, which is painful to go through, unless you buy the official story that a lone nut did all the shooting. Gary Mack is a turncoat and he makes me sick, running the official story shrine for profit...But I digress. They have the "sniper's nest" glassed off, so that you can only view it from the other side of the glass. HOWEVER, go one floor up. There is nothing on that floor (at least, not as of November 2010). You can go to the same window as the sniper supposedly was at, only one floor up. Then take a gander at what a good shot it would have been while the limo was on Houston Street, and then look sideways at what a difficult shot it was on Elm Street.

It puts the whole "lone nut who shot from the TSD building" theory in the trash bin where it belongs. How easy it would have been for the shooter to get an easy head shot straight ahead on Houston Street. Why didn't it happen then? Answer: Because the cross-fire triangulation was much better accomplished on Elm Street, when you factor in the insurance building and the grassy knoll.

When you get to Dealy Plaza, simply walk around like a detective, and ask yourself if the "official story" actually fits the environment, or did they try to fit the environment into their official story....

Close-up picture of the plaque on the Texas School Book Depository building (some people get it!):

posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 02:27 PM
Thanks guys.

Im still getting ready to go out, I want to be prepared in order to maximize the amount of information I can get out of this trip. As I stated, I know a lot about the subject already, but Im tempted to head to Dealey/TSBD playing the role of an ignorant, naive every day American. People are always eager to convince an undecided person their side of things. I have a list of questions I want to ask Gary Mack, or whoever is touting the WC side of events in the area. Might be able to get some interesting slip-ups.

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