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Obama mentions Medical Records, Hasn't Disclosed His Own.. His Life is an "open book"

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


This doctor?


The man Barack Obama consulted on medical matters for over two decades said on Tuesday that the president's vision for health care reform is bound for failure.

Dr. David Scheiner, a 70-year Chicago-based physician who treated Obama for more than 20 years, said he was disheartened by the health care legislation his former patient is championing, calling it piecemeal and ineffectual.

"I look at his program and I can't see how it's going to work," Scheiner told the Huffington Post. "He has no cost control. There would be no effective cost control in his program. The [Congressional Budget Office] said it's going be incredibly expensive ... and the thing that I really am worried about is, if it is the failure that I think it would be, then health reform will be set back a long, long time."

www.huffingtonpost.com...

That's a nice summary and all other "exams" that were discussed by BH were performed under official capacity as POTUS. Standard for all sitting presidents. No records from "candidate Obama" back in time.

Sound familiar??


President Bush was pronounced "fit for duty" after an annual checkup Saturday that showed that the 59-year-old commander in chief, an avid mountain bike rider, has lost 8 pounds since his last physical exam in December.

www.straightfromthedoc.com...

Same "fit for duty" every year for every POTUS.

Bill Clinton
www.doctorzebra.com...


While running for the Presidency in 2008, Obama released a one-page letter from his physician, summarizing 21 years of medical history [More] [5]. The letter offers reassuring statements about Obama's blood pressure, cholesterol profile, electrocardiogram, and basic blood tests, including prostate specific antigen.

Comment: There is nothing inherently wrong with summarizing 21 years of medical history on one page -- if the patient has been healthy. Even so, this letter leaves a bad taste in Dr. Zebra's mouth, for several reasons: (1) It is undated. Putting a date on a document is as automatic as breathing for a physician. Why was there no date? (2) The characterization of "intermittent" smoking is unprofessional. Physicians speak in terms of "pack-years" of smoking. (3) The statement that Obama maintains a "good intake" of fluids rings false. Except for patients with various diseases, there is no call to measure fluid intake. It sounds like the physician was trying to fill space.

Pretty cool list
www.doctorzebra.com...


I'm a physician and worked at Bethesda Naval for 9 years (in between deployments). The Dr Zebra person has some good point, although I must admit I've never heard about Dr Zebra before.




posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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If you wouldn't get your "information" from nonsense sites like Breitbart, you'd know he released his medical record: LINK

There even was an update since he was elected.

Hell, a 3min Google search would have shown you what nonsense the OP's post is



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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I believe its the same person who wrote this
www.amazon.com...

Dr. Zebra is the Nickname for Dr. John G. Sotos. He also wrote this enlightening book about President Lincoln and his unusual health history. "The Physical Lincoln"
www.amazon.com...=la_B002BLNCTW_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345574654&sr=1-2



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
He has released a summary of his medical records through his doctor...what else do you want???


First of all let me start off by saying that this letter reads more like a campaign endorsement than a statement about a man's physical health written by a professional doctor.



blogs.suntimes.com...

… He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. … His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.


LOL – lean muscular with no excess body fat… He forgot to add he looks fetching in red, white and blue as well.

We all know Doctors are people and have political agendas just like the rest of us. Take these ethical professionals in action here for example….



Regarding the letter - Obama’s campaign wrote that letter make no doubt. The Doctor might well have signed it but it was written by professional political campaigners - just read it. The information therein might even be true but that letter is nothing more than an endorsement add.

I have this discussion with my kid’s school all the time a Doctor's note is a waste of time and money. I can get my Doctor to prescribe whatever medicine I want and so can anyone who spends 3 minutes on WebMD. Spout of the symptoms and bingo - whatever you want/need.

I don’t need to pay my deductable for an office visit to know when my child is too ill to focus on her studies for the day. I know when to take her to the doctor and when she’s just got a bug and would me miserable in school. However, the government (the school) doesn’t accept my authority as parent to make that decision (how nice) so if I want it “excused” so she doesn’t lose GPA I have to get one.

Mostly – I just pick them up from the Doctor’s Office; sometimes I’ll take her in so he can script a Z-pac or whatever if it’s a bad cold or lingering for several days.

As long as he can bill an office call he’s cool with it. I guarantee it’s no different with David L. Scheiner, M.D....

One can only guess how much the people of the State of Illinois paid for this “office call” in favors and kickbacks for this Doctor.

Also, who wants a man in office who's never broken a bone or had stitches or something - minor rashes, and illness huh that's it? Needs to turn in his man card IMO – men have scars and #...

What American kid doesn't fall from a tree or slide into first and need a few stitches here and there now and again?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


I never questioned its authenticity wiz bang. Just its intentional vagueness and certain lack of any data pertinent to Obama's long history of smoking tobacco (amongst other things) Plenty of THC in that body over the years as well.
I'm sure the doctor wrote the letter. Why no date though? I just like the fact that this doctor has come out against Obamacare.

21 years in a nutshell... Whatever works for you. Do I have to repeat what Obama said once again?? I know Obama is held to a different standard by those of you self anointed few from his "truth team".

Keep your chin up!!


lol you know how this works




When people choose to be and proclaim openly that they are going to remain willfully ignorant, there is no need to try to have any further discussion.

the irony

edit on 21-8-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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Thanks for sharing what I already POSTED!! Keep trying and read about what "Dr.Zebra" had to say. I've already quoted it. Thanks for playing. Guess you didn't read the first page of this thread either. Your Buddy OS posted the same medical summary.



Gimme a Break.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


Thanks for sharing what I already POSTED!! Keep trying and read about what "Dr.Zebra" had to say. I've already quoted it. Thanks for playing. Guess you didn't read the first page of this thread either. Your Buddy OS posted the same medical summary.



Gimme a Break.


His doctor gave him the all clear for crying out loud. At least he released his tax returns like every other president in history


But oh well, if you aren't happy about Obama releasing more than a summary I guess you're also not going to vote for Romney given that he refuses to release information every other president before him released...right?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by NavyDoc
 


I believe its the same person who wrote this
www.amazon.com...

Dr. Zebra is the Nickname for Dr. John G. Sotos. He also wrote this enlightening book about President Lincoln and his unusual health history. "The Physical Lincoln"
www.amazon.com...=la_B002BLNCTW_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345574654&sr=1-2



Fascinating. I always thought Lincoln looked a little "Marfanoid."



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho



While Obama has released a decade or so worth of tax returns, otherwise, he is the furthest thing from an "open book" when it comes to his medical records -- which he refuses to release.



Whoopee!!! A birther remix!!! Here let me get you started...then you can scream MORE MORE MORE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!



Obama's health details from his physical exam:

Weight: 179.9 pounds (with shoes and workout attire)
Body Mass Index: 23.7
Resting Heart rate: (seated) 56
Resting blood pressure: (seated) 105/62
Pulse-oximetry: 98% (room air)
Temperature: 97.8 F

Vision: 20/20 both eyes. Mild astigmatism and presbyopia.
Gastriointestinal: Obama took a high-tech screening test, a CT-colonography. His test results were normal. Colonography is less invasive than a colonoscopy and does not involved having to be sedated.

Lipid profile with total cholesterol: 209

Triglycerides: 46
HDL: 62
LDL: 138
VLDL: 9
Total cholesterol to HDL ratio: 3.4

Homocystein: 11.6 and CRP ultrasensitive 0.015.
FBS: 87
PSA: 0.70

Heart: EKG, EBCT, normal.

blogs.suntimes.com...

Click here to read full Medical report..it even tells you when his next rectal exam is!

Plus a statement from his doctor while Pres. Obama was running in 08


I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama's primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.

During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.

His family history is pertinent for his mother's death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.

Senator Obama's last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

www.swamppolitics.com...

MORE MORE MORE...BORN IN KENYA!!!...
edit on 21-8-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by jibeho



While Obama has released a decade or so worth of tax returns, otherwise, he is the furthest thing from an "open book" when it comes to his medical records -- which he refuses to release.



Whoopee!!! A birther remix!!! Here let me get you started...then you can scream MORE MORE MORE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!



Obama's health details from his physical exam:

Weight: 179.9 pounds (with shoes and workout attire)
Body Mass Index: 23.7
Resting Heart rate: (seated) 56
Resting blood pressure: (seated) 105/62
Pulse-oximetry: 98% (room air)
Temperature: 97.8 F

Vision: 20/20 both eyes. Mild astigmatism and presbyopia.
Gastriointestinal: Obama took a high-tech screening test, a CT-colonography. His test results were normal. Colonography is less invasive than a colonoscopy and does not involved having to be sedated.

Lipid profile with total cholesterol: 209

Triglycerides: 46
HDL: 62
LDL: 138
VLDL: 9
Total cholesterol to HDL ratio: 3.4

Homocystein: 11.6 and CRP ultrasensitive 0.015.
FBS: 87
PSA: 0.70

Heart: EKG, EBCT, normal.

blogs.suntimes.com...

Click here to read full Medical report..it even tells you when his next rectal exam is!

Plus a statement from his doctor while Pres. Obama was running in 08


I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama's primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.

During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.

His family history is pertinent for his mother's death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.

Senator Obama's last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

www.swamppolitics.com...

MORE MORE MORE...BORN IN KENYA!!!...
edit on 21-8-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


In all fairness, a summary like that is not "the full medical record." However, it is the standard release that every POTUS does annually. Obama does not want to release more and he does not have to. Neither does he have to release his transcripts (or whatever) if he does not want to. Romney does not have to release more of his tax records either and there is obviously no smoking gun in them either. Just political posturing from both sides.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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how many of the people in u.s., have doctors that are prestigeous enough to be on call at two medical hospital facilities? My doctor is a son of a doctor, who practices family medical. Hes not on call at a hospital, or a medical facility, other than his professional practice. The fact that obama has had a doctor who would be considered one of the finest in his state, should shed more light on what sort of person b rack is. If I need to elaborate, I will, but.. Come on.. Connect some dots.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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I'm still looking for the psychiatric results.

Where do we find them ?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
I'm still looking for the psychiatric results.

Where do we find them ?



If that was a requirement they would have shipped off Bush to the asylum the second he claimed god encouraged him to the war in Iraq


Or maybe god fell for the old "WMD" trick live everyone else

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Interesting note about Obama's Chicago doctor. I mentioned earlier that the good doctor was not pleased with the final version of Obamacare. I now know why.


Scheiner has been a leading advocate of the single-payer health care system since its beginnings, along with his partner and good friend Quentin Young.[2] In August 2009, Dr. Scheiner appeared on numerous television and media outlets, including CNN's Larry King Live, hosted by Wolf Blitzer, and HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, hosted by Bill Maher, appearing as a proponent of a single-payer government health system, in view of the recent debate surrounding U.S. health care reforms proposed by President Obama, whose health care plans he termed as being too "timid".[1][4][5] During his appearance on Larry King Live on August 11, 2009, when he headlined that day's episode, he discussed the issue with Blitzer and other commentators, including former Republican Party presidential candidate Ron Paul and Dean Ornish, stating how health insurance companies had interfered in the treatment of several of his patients and advocating usage of the single-payer system.[6]


I get it now!! and his glowing "summary" of Obama's 21 year health history makes sense. He thought he was endorsing a man who once advocated for a single payer system. So the doctor was let down by Obama in the long run...

Interesting... What are the odds that Obama would end up in the office of one of the leading members of the Physicians for a National Health Program and a very vocal proponent of the single payer system? How many years did Obama really see this doctor.?? 20 bucks says that this chap is also the physician for Bill Ayers....



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
His doctor gave him the all clear for crying out loud. At least he released his tax returns like every other president in history


To be honest I am more concerned with how he thinks than how much body fat he has. I would rather see his college transcripts and papers than his tax returns. If his grades were good enough to get into Harvard there can't be much to be ashamed of there?

I think Obama himself says it best.



What is he hiding - lay it all out there. Barry. You said it best.

Again, I could care less about his medical records, tax records or whatever - I care way more with whom he associates and in his own words from his book...



If he applied for a job that required a security clearance (one with far less access than POTUS) he likely would not have it granted. His past associations and unexplained foreign travel would disqualify him.

ETA:


Originally posted by jibeho

Interesting... What are the odds that Obama would end up in the office of one of the leading members of the Physicians for a National Health Program and a very vocal proponent of the single payer system? How many years did Obama really see this doctor.?? 20 bucks says that this chap is also the physician for Bill Ayers....


This is what I mean - I don't care about his sexy body fat and how he occasionally smokes (one can only imagine what/who he is smoking). I care with whom he associates... Bill Ayers is at the top of my WTF list. A POTUS hangs with a known and admitted terrorist...interesting.

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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I stopped reading here, because there is nothing anyone can add. Thank you for calling out the lies.




posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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All Breibart does is lie and the brainwashed right wing readers that are ignorant actually believe it. Obama has released his medical records.

This thread title is absolutely false and goes against the T/C. Why hasn't a mod changed it?.

The OP is an absolute fail and should be embarrassed for not researching a topic before he posted it.


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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by NavyDoc

In all fairness, a summary like that is not "the full medical record."


And a "birth certificate" is not a "long-form"...ad infinium


Originally posted by NavyDoc
However, it is the standard release that every POTUS does annually.

And also a complete and detailed medical summary from his doctor before he was elected.


Originally posted by NavyDocObama does not want to release more and he does not have to. Neither does he have to release his transcripts (or whatever) if he does not want to. Romney does not have to release more of his tax records either

"Have to"?...no, but ....If "standard" is your criteria then Romney fails. Romney's own father set the "standard" by releasing 12 years of returns..



George Romney explained why he was releasing so many tax returns, saying, “One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show.”

www.htrnews.com...


Originally posted by NavyDoc
and there is obviously no smoking gun in them either. Just political posturing from both sides.


What on earth makes you say that?? Romney's own party pressed him to release the returns and he still refused. His own father made a case for why he should release several years returns...and he still refuses.

Why would you think there was nothing damaging there??

At the very least we know that romney is a tax dodger..

He does not invest in America...He invests his enormous wealth offshore and abroad.

Why should anyone elect a man to lead this nation who has so little faith in it? His wealth as been offshore since the 1990's.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by NavyDoc

In all fairness, a summary like that is not "the full medical record."


And a "birth certificate" is not a "long-form"...ad infinium


Originally posted by NavyDoc
However, it is the standard release that every POTUS does annually.

And also a complete and detailed medical summary from his doctor before he was elected.


Originally posted by NavyDocObama does not want to release more and he does not have to. Neither does he have to release his transcripts (or whatever) if he does not want to. Romney does not have to release more of his tax records either

"Have to"?...no, but ....If "standard" is your criteria then Romney fails. Romney's own father set the "standard" by releasing 12 years of returns..



George Romney explained why he was releasing so many tax returns, saying, “One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show.”

www.htrnews.com...


Originally posted by NavyDoc
and there is obviously no smoking gun in them either. Just political posturing from both sides.


What on earth makes you say that?? Romney's own party pressed him to release the returns and he still refused. His own father made a case for why he should release several years returns...and he still refuses.

Why would you think there was nothing damaging there??

At the very least we know that romney is a tax dodger..

He does not invest in America...He invests his enormous wealth offshore and abroad.

Why should anyone elect a man to lead this nation who has so little faith in it? His wealth as been offshore since the 1990's.


Tax evasion, you mean like Tim Geitner? If tax evasion was an issue for the administration they would not have to look any further than their own people. You do know that even if Romney does not release his tax returns publicly, the IRS still has every single document and if there was fraud and evasion and illegal activity, do you not think the IRS would be all over him? Especially since the IRS is part of the executive branch and the head executive is Romney's political opponent. So yes, you will not find any smoking gun of criminal activity. The only thing one might find is that he invested in companies that socialists do not like and will make an issue. Just like Obama and his transcripts or full medical records or whatever, neither Obama nor Romney are obligated to release any of those things and both sides are trying to make political hay.

You talk about moving jobs overseas? I assume then that you are upset with Obama for giving over five hundred million taxpayer dollars to Fisker to build cars in NORWAY?



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