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The US and the Nazis

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:53 AM
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Note: This is not a definite claim but all speculation. I have simply tried to connect a few dots together. If you find I have made a mistake feel free to tell me.

Conspiracy theorists have always had an interest with Hitler and Himmler. Some insist that they were a tool for the NWO. Others say that both were involved in the occult. But one thing for certain is they were very, very interested in the ancient civilizations. In fact, Himmler set up a group known as the Ahnenerbe which studied ancient lore, in an attempt to learn more about the Aryan race.
Now what is the Aryan race? The Nazis believed that they came from this race of tall blonde superhumans. Many prominent occultists believed that the Aryan race came from Atlantis.
Now the Aryan race originates from Asia, probably somewhere in South East Asia. These people are now known as the Indo-Europeans.
If we look even deeper we will see that Indian Subcontinent is home to Mohenjo-Daro, which was supposedly home to an ancient nuclear battle. Not only this, but India has also been a spiritual center for the world. The Hindu text Mahabharata describes an ancient Indian nuclear battle. Ancient Astronaut Theorists constantly talk about Ancient India and it's Vimanas.



Now what has this got to do with the Germans? We just need to look at the Swastika, which was used in Ancient Indian times and a prominent symbol in Hinduism.





Hitler and many other Nazis were very interested in the Indians. Expeditions were not only sent to Tibet but also India, in search for the birthplace of the Aryans.
Interestingly, British pilots reported seeing flying saucers or as they called them 'foo fighters'.





Although these two images have come from different time periods, they certainly share some similarities.
What did the Nazis find in the Indian subcontinent? What did they discover? It is speculated that they had discovered long lost technology, which would help them in the war.

Not only did the Nazis journey to India and Tibet, they also sent expeditions to the Middle East, where they found the Baghdad Battery, which has baffled the minds of many throughout the world.



The Nazis certainly founds what they were looking for. Weapons and technology which could aid them in the war. However, in the end, the Nazis had lost. Germany would later on suffer horribly as the Soviets went through Germany slaughtering thousands.

The US had their own ideas. After WWII, the US began to recruit German scientists for their own interests. The US would later on send the first man on the moon. A few years later, the CIA set up Project MK-Ultra. Nazi scientists were involved in this. Brainwash, torture and other sinister subjects were explored.

Another interesting fact is that the CIA became very involved in the politics of Iraq and Iran soon after the aftermath of WWII. The Americans and British planned a coup against Mohammed Mossadeq and put their Western puppet in his place. Similar things happened in Iraq. It can also be noted that the US started an invasion of Iraq in 2003 and currently, the US is at diplomatic war with Iran.




posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:09 AM
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I don't mean to be that guy, but you seem to be making quite a lot of claims. Some of which I have heard before and after doing research proven to be false, others true.

My only request is a list of sources or websites you pulled this all from. Not saying I don't trust you, I would just like to do my own reading.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:17 AM
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to me your idea is pretty decent, but because I've read more about it, I can see your connection but what you want ot explain and how you can get everyone to really get your entire idea in your way, you should explore all the areas and write the whole thing out, you might be onto something

cheo



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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What part of this dudes research has been proven false? For a start Operation Paperclip has been well documented and substantiated, if Germany did not have the advanced technology that the US, UK, French and Soviet Union were after then why all the collection and commotion running around after Germanys unconditional surrender trying to accumulate scientists and engineers?
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:43 AM
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there is a reason that our known history only goes so far back, its because certain people\groups/beings dont want us knowing the truth, advanced civilizations have been around for an incomprehensible amount of time, and that is on this earth alone, that doesent take into account other worlds and galaxies. for some reason weather it be are own, or an outside group of beings, we rise and fall like the oceans tide, the question is why? I think certain people of this age have understood this and started actively looking for answers just to be confronted with oppresive powers that would rather see millions of people die than to let the truth be exposed, hitler and others were such casualty's , i dont agree how hitler and others went about it(if the history books are accurate) but i do commend them for trying to understand what 99.9999ect will never know or even be able to grasp if the info was out in front of them(there to busy watching jersy shore, and trying to figure out how to make time between voting for puppets(of which the winner is already chosen) and making it to walmart to get the best deal on things they dont even need, and in between all that getting up to date on the latest hollywood scandal.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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Operation Paperclip isn't the issue here. There is still a long void between nazis and aliens and operation paperclip. Saying these scientists were only advanced because they had alien technology is a pretty big claim.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 06:00 AM
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"Operation Paperclip isn't the issue here. There is still a long void between nazis and aliens and operation paperclip. Saying these scientists were only advanced because they had alien technology is a pretty big claim."

I find it a hard to beleve that "They" are supposedly responsible for the invention of integrated circuits and compact disc's after the Roswell incident. However it does explain the technological leap somewhat. I mean from Valves to ICs in such a short time seems a stretch to me.

Also if some of the work that Viktor Schobinger and Nikola Tesla were upto ever amounted to anything then the Haunebu flying saucer no longer seems an impossibility.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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Well the thing about technology is one advance leads to more. And faster. We went from the wright brothers to space in less then a decade. From dvd to blu ray in under 10 years. From Mp3 players to iPads in even less time. Yes looking back the technological leaps seem huge but looking forward they are easier to see. 5 years ago texting just became big on phones. Now you have facetime where you can literally talk face to face using your smart phone.

If you are looking to find a conspiracy that's your prerogative, but I would like some more info before I just submit to this alien theory.

Denying ignorance works both ways. Denying the official story doesn't automatically make the other theory the correct one.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 06:10 AM
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Im in no way implying your not right to question things mate, its just that stranger things have happened. Its a big Multiverse out there, eh? I dont really think there is an official account of what happened at the time, considering the turmoil Germany was in at the end of WW2.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 06:12 AM
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Oh absolutely and I am in no way implying that he is wrong. I would just like to see some more about this before I give this theory any credit. It's easy to just say things, but if he comes back with some sources and valid arguments I will give this theory any credit I believe its do.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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The US had their own ideas. After WWII, the US began to recruit German scientists for their own interests. The US would later on send the first man on the moon. A few years later, the CIA set up Project MK-Ultra. Nazi scientists were involved in this. Brainwash, torture and other sinister subjects were explored.


Not the direction you are going with the OP, but what with Operation Paperclip polluting our intellligence agencies and scientists and the increasing police state-it's kind of like the Nazi's won the war.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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"it's kind of like the Nazi's won the war."

What do you mean kind of won the war. WWII went according to plan for the Illuminati. You see countrys, they simply see populations. Its a control of numbers game, has been since the beginning and allways behind there proverbial curtain!
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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As I have said, this is mostly speculation and I cannot say it is definite. The ancient astronaut theory is mostly based on pseudoscience and pseudohistory so you won't find much 'proof'. Most researchers rely on ancient text, carvings and paintings.

To start of lets bring in a few paintings. You've probably seen most of them, but it proves one thing: The people in the past had seen these UFOs and perhaps met with them.












posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet



The US had their own ideas. After WWII, the US began to recruit German scientists for their own interests. The US would later on send the first man on the moon. A few years later, the CIA set up Project MK-Ultra. Nazi scientists were involved in this. Brainwash, torture and other sinister subjects were explored.


Not the direction you are going with the OP, but what with Operation Paperclip polluting our intellligence agencies and scientists and the increasing police state-it's kind of like the Nazi's won the war.



Many Nazi scientists were not charged with war crimes and allowed to live in the US. The Nazis didn't win as a whole, but a few sneaky men did get away.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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I know, it was a somewhat naive comment on some levels because you are right, the Illuminati controlled both sides and even took steps to prolong the war in various ways.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Yes it was all a sham! We know what there all about! Now all we need is the majority of humanity to wake up and take stock, eh?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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It might have just been good old fashioned greed on behalf of American companies to do buisness with a country that was gearing up for war. In hindsight you are always smarter, I am not sure if IBM new their computers would help run the holocaust.

If you want more information on why the Nazis used the Symbol they used, this link might help.

www.intelinet.org...
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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"It might have just been good old fashioned greed on behalf of American companies"

Think you mean the NWO industrial complex.

"to do buisness with a country that was gearing up for war."

Aren't they all to some degree or another? Its divide and conquer!

"In hindsight you are always smarter, I am not sure if IBM new their computers would help run the holocaust."

Dont think they would care either way, but which holocaust are you referring to, past or future?

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