Nice thread OL. Good argument

Then what does that make Alex Jones

Your KJV Bible has the answer internally: the two witnesses are the OT and the NT.

Alex Jones? He's the witless...

No. They aren't testifying of Christ. And as far as I know neither has called down fire from heaven.

If I had to say who they were my guess would be Jay Z and Kanye West. Thats one awesome cd.

So one of the prophets is scared to come out of an embassy?

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...I have to say, it drives me insane that people force allegorical interpretations onto literal statements. The verses in Revelation describing the two witnesses are not allegorical. There is nothing in the text that indicates that such an interpretation is either warranted or justified.
Every symbolic reference found in Revelation is consistent with the text of the Bible as a whole. Thus, if you want to find out what the "olive branches" and "lampstands" etc. refer to, all you need to do is look at places in Scripture where these terms are previously defined. You do not need to, nor should you, make up your own allusions as to what these things might mean. This is poor interpretive practice.

...beside which, we are not chronologically up to Revelation 11.
Many events precede what occurs in Revelation 11 (chapters 6-10), including the bowl judgements etc. - these have not occurred yet, nor can it be logically or reasonably argued that they have.

You say it's a very flimsy premise, but one that needs to be investigated deeply? What sense does that make? That's like saying "this food is terrible but you should definitely try it!"

Let me ask you a question, do you think the Bible only applies to people living in your western world? I ask this question, because I hope you realize that there are billions of people on this planet that you know nothing about. Meaning, there could (and most likely are) two people somewhere out there that are MUCH more likely to be the two witnesses from revelation than Julian Assange and Bradly Manning.

It just seems ridiculous to me that religious people are constantly trying to fit western pop culture figures into some characters from the Bible. This leads me to believe that such people think the only relevant people in the world, as far as the bible is concerned, are western folks that are on TV or in the news.

Why do all these people from the Bible have to be well known celebrity type folks?

I got it, unless someone is on TV or in the news, then there is no chance they are the people that the bible describes as coming. If Jesus ever comes back lets hope he gets a reality TV show, otherwise all the religious folks will ignore him because he isn't some TV personality, politician, or news story.

Explanation: It seems my disclaimer is required ...



If they can be shown to have some similarities with the two prophets then that is something worthwhile noting.

Personal Disclosure: I am not a christian or a follower of the Abrahamic faiths and so I have no personal investment in the results of this discussion.

what is your angle then?
Is it honesty and truth or because you need to learn something (as we all are, I might add), I'm not doing any one's work for them unless i choose to.
That includes irritating visitors who were welcomed in friendship but displayed other than said emotion, more akin to a little kid in a lollie shop, creepy.
This entire site is full to stinking with metaphores for this and for that, and still.... many someones listen, and no one all at once.
Here's a truth, just one and I don't even know if it's for you.

The one who sat in the shadows, the comment of 'she didn't teach us anything' petulently
well let me fix that, I'm so sorry, my voice wasn't working properly otherwise I would have slapped you, nice black board by the way.
There is a snitch, an inocent snitch but one none the less, a mini singers microphone on a stand down low, silver, maybe in a cupboard, it's obvious though, or should be.

It's probably been removed already so I really look the loon, oh well, what can I do about that now....

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Anyone got pics of these guys wearing sackcloth?