reply to post by milkyway12
I don't think he understands that he voluntarily gave up some of his rights when he gave his oath and signed on the dotted line.
This is a common misconception.
You can process out of the military at any time via administrative separation citing conflict of interest (or other grounds). This was much harder to
do back when the military was hurting for people - but they can't kick enough people out, these days (and have been consistently raising the physical
and intellectual standards for service and lowering high year tenure marks). Each person administratively processed out is one less person that
collects 50% of their 36 highest paying months for the next 40+ years (meaning they pay you more in retirement than in active service).
You still have rights. The difference is that the military is far more strict on enforcing the same laws many civilians are subject to, but that are
rarely enforced or reported.
The military is not a place for free will and theory, especially for enlisted. The Military is a Machine.
This is only true to a point.
If you're in a tactical situation and you're told to do something - you do it. If you see the order as an unnecessary risk, you should briefly
voice your concerns about it, but be willing to obey. People moving in the same direction - even if it's the wrong one - are in a better position to
react to their environment than people who lock up and do nothing (or argue amongst each other).
The window for feedback in tactical scenarios is small, but there.
For strategic and policy issues - it's completely different. While the Army and Marines are a little less talkative, you'll find that discussion
about the effectiveness of policies is commonly discussed when outside of "this needs to get done right now or people are going to die" situations.
Good upper enlisted will often engage in discussion about the logic behind policies or even their own decisions.
Because the lower enlisted, if they wish to advance and assume more responsibility, should be taught some of these things without having to attend the
school of hard knocks.
You have ample time, as long as needed, to read, ask, and comprehend your oath and what you are getting yourself into before you give your oath and
People interpret that oath a little differently, though.
I pay close attention to the order in which things are listed. Upholding the Constitution of the United States comes first - be it your oath upon
swearing in, the Sailor's Creed, or a host of other creeds stretching the branches.
Then your Commander In Chief, then your lawful orders, etc etc.
So, we swear to uphold the values of a document that twelve individuals with decades of experience and education are appointed to interpret its
application to various legal scenarios. And they often disagree.
But it's all kind of moot, since he was already out of active service.