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Obama: "Nobody Accused Mr. Romney Of Being A Felon"

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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Obama: "Nobody Accused Mr. Romney Of Being A Felon"




Nancy Cordes, CBS: As you know, your opponent recently accused you of waging a campaign filled with anger and hate. You told Entertainment Tonight that anyone who attends your rallies can see that they are not angry or hate-filled affairs. But in recent weeks, your campaign has suggested repeatedly - without proof - that Mr. Romney might be hiding something in his tax returns. They have suggested that Mr. Romney might be a felon for the way that he handed over power of Bain Capital. And your campaign and the White House have declined to condemn an ad by one of your top supporters that links Mr. Romney to a woman's death from cancer. Are you comfortable with the tone being set with your campaign? Have you asked them to change their tone when it comes to defining Mr. Romney?


www.realclearpolitics.com...

His Answer


President Obama: Well, first of all, I am not sure that all of those characterizations that you laid out there were accurate.
read the rest of his answer and video.

Yeah those characterizations were accurate and a sitting president lying shows just how much character Obama does not have.

And no he is not been talking about putting Americans back to work denigration and dogma has been the norm watch some campaign videos and listen to the pot shots on Romney and the Right, then agian he has been on campaign mode for 3 and half years.

From Reid and other pundits for the Obama campaign he can sit there and lie with a straight face.




edit on 20-8-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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He is allowed 1 accusation.......I have a couple for him....

You are not American....

You are the worst president in the history of the USA

You would have went on more vacations / golf trips / basketball games if Romney paid more into taxes

You would get beat in a debate with Ron Paul

GO RON PAUL!! Please make us forget the last 4 agonizing years happened!!!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Boy, the Republicans really don't like it when the Democrats play by their rules, do they? Would it help if Obama said he "apologized" and got his wording wrong? That's normally the GOP response to these things. I mean, if Romney isn't held responsible for his PAC ads, why should Obama be responsible for his?

Obama is playing the same game the GOP has for YEARS and the GOP doesn't like it.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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If this election cycle doesn't completely break America apart, hopefully it will at least galvanize a legitimate 3rd party that will last for decades. We absolutely MUST have a 3rd party that represents the people instead of the government and corporations.

I've said all along, I don't know how anybody can legitimately support Romney, and my only complaint with Obama has been his failure to lead, and his constant compromise. I don't think he has some grand socialist agenda, or even if he does, at least it is in the right areas where we do need reform, even if his plan is terrible.

So, can't support Romney, don't see Obama as any kind of leader, but they are both going to aggressively divide the country and set us back 60 years of human rights and equal opportunities. Who knows, maybe that is a good thing, or maybe they'll just burn the whole thing down and we can start fresh.

This election cycle, and these 2 parties are pure poison for the country.
edit on 20-8-2012 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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To the OP: Can we see the original accusation of Romney being a felon? I mean, if Obama's denying it, can you prove him wrong and show where Romney was accused of a felony? Because I think they said he's EITHER lying or committed a felony. Thanks.


reply to post by getreadyalready
 


You make too damn much sense.


I have the same criticisms about Obama. I think he could be a leader if he didn't try so hard to compromise. If a compromise can't be reached, don't keep trying to compromise. Do something different. I hopw he'll be a better leader in his second term.


edit on 8/20/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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What we all forget is that both of these twits are only a third of the problem. You still have the house and the Senate. If we as American voters do not clean our own house and that starts in every state, then what can we expect to gain, even by a third party. The system is so out of whack, so corrupt, on a good cleansing of it all could help. How about a 4th branch made up of the state govenors? They would hold the power of the President.

We have to face reality, there is no difference between Obama or Romney. They are both bought and paid for. We have no choice this election except to write in our favorite candidates. Ted Nugent and Jesse Ventura!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by neo96

And no he is not been talking about putting Americans back to work


That is Romney's gig...just cut taxes for the wealthy and it will trickle down!!

I prefer someone that "does" rather than TALK...especially with politicians.


Since the "trough" of the recession in late 2009..

4,001,000 MORE jobs in total
4,545,000 MORE private sector jobs
4,252,000 MORE people working



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Obama maybe didn't accuse him but I do.

The biggest question is, does he have enough corrupt judges on his side when the cases come rolling in? We'll soon see. Attorney Gilbert already tentatively won one case, more to come.
edit on 20-8-2012 by fourthmeal because: spell much?



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Obama’s statement was in response to a question about his re-election campaign’s attacks on Mitt Romney‘s time at Bain Capital. It appears to directly contradict something his deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said back in July, when she suggested that Romney may have committed a felony. Read more: dailycaller.com...


dailycaller.com...


Mitt Romney either lied in federal filings that show he worked at Bain Capital through 2002 and could be guilty of a felony, or has lied to the American people in saying he left the company in 1999, the Obama campaign is arguing in light of news reports on the firm’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission



“This is serious business,” said Bob Bauer, the Obama campaign’s counsel, in a conference call for reporters coming after the Boston Globe published a story Thursday that calls into question the timeline of Romney’s involvement of the firm that the Republican candidate has been promulgating for years.



Deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter laid out the issue as the Obama team sees it: “Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony."



www.politico.com...


President Obama: Well, first of all, I am not sure that all of those characterizations that you laid out there were accurate.





To the OP: Can we see the original accusation of Romney being a felon? I mean, if Obama's denying it, can you prove him wrong and show where Romney was accused of a felony? Because I think they said he's EITHER lying or committed a felony. Thanks.


First off I do not have to do a damn thing if people don't know the material before they come to a thread that is on them.

The question to Obama


Nancy Cordes, CBS: As you know, your opponent recently accused you of waging a campaign filled with anger and hate. You told Entertainment Tonight that anyone who attends your rallies can see that they are not angry or hate-filled affairs. But in recent weeks, your campaign has suggested repeatedly - without proof - that Mr. Romney might be hiding something in his tax returns. They have suggested that Mr. Romney might be a felon for the way that he handed over power of Bain Capital. And your campaign and the White House have declined to condemn an ad by one of your top supporters that links Mr. Romney to a woman's death from cancer. Are you comfortable with the tone being set with your campaign? Have you asked them to change their tone when it comes to defining Mr. Romney?


Obama reply those characterizations "were not accurate".



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
....Obama is playing the same game the GOP has for YEARS and the GOP doesn't like it.


So much for HOPE and CHANGE, huh? Wait till the real dirty Chicago style smears start coming.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by neo96


Mitt Romney either lied in federal filings that show he worked at Bain Capital through 2002 and could be guilty of a felony, or has lied to the American people in saying he left the company in 1999, the Obama campaign is arguing in light of news reports on the firm’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission


Thanks again. As I thought, they said he EITHER lied to the American people OR committed a felony. And that's true. I don't see anything wrong with the accusation. And no one said he was a felon. Lying to the SEC is a felony. He either lied to us or to the SEC (a felony).

In any case, he needs to explain the lie that he got caught in.



First off I do not have to do a damn thing if people don't know the material before they come to a thread that is on them.


No, you don't have to. But if you don't, someone might ask what you're talking about and ask for an explanation.



Obama reply those characterizations "were not accurate".


He said he didn't know if they were accurate.


"Well, first of all, I am not sure that all of those characterizations that you laid out there were accurate.

edit on 8/20/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Bull Crap

Obama " if i had a son he'd look like Trayvon", "the police acted stupidly" etc.

Obama feigning ignorance tells people everything they need to know about a guy who has no clue what his campaign is doing?

Does not fly.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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And no he is not been talking about putting Americans back to work


That's a load of BS. The only reason why more people haven't been put back to work is because your party of no keeps blocking him. Like when he wanted to give companies tax breaks to bring jobs back to America your party of no stopped it but still wanted to give the companies tax breaks.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
 


Bull Crap

Obama " if i had a son he'd look like Trayvon", "the police acted stupidly" etc.

Obama feigning ignorance tells people everything they need to know about a guy who has no clue what his campaign is doing?

Does not fly.


PACS are not part of his campaign. It's like the PAC that does the Romney and Ryan campaign that says our rights were given to us by God and not the government. Do you think Ryan told them to put out this ad?

These people must be too stupid to understand our bill of rights were written by man not God.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Boy, the Republicans really don't like it when the Democrats play by their rules, do they? Would it help if Obama said he "apologized" and got his wording wrong? That's normally the GOP response to these things. I mean, if Romney isn't held responsible for his PAC ads, why should Obama be responsible for his?

Obama is playing the same game the GOP has for YEARS and the GOP doesn't like it.


This has nothing to do with PAC ads. This is Obama's deputy something or other campaign chief saying Romney was probably a felon. Twice. Then Obama lies through his teeth and says no one accused Romney of being a felon.

And since you brought up PAC ads how about the fact that Obama's former White House admin secretary is in charge of the super PAC running the cancer ad? Oh yeah, he's not affiliated with them at all.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
Since the "trough" of the recession in late 2009..

4,001,000 MORE jobs in total
4,545,000 MORE private sector jobs
4,252,000 MORE people working


Got anything to back those numbers up?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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I'm not a fan of Obama or Romney since they are both criminals as far as I am concerned. Did you know that both Obama and Romney's biggest donor is Goldman Sachs? They both work for the same criminal entity that wants to cede U.S. sovereignty to the U.N.
Paul Ryan is also supposedly guilty of insider trading involving Goldman Sachs:
www.alternet.org...

besides that though, Romney supposedly committed voter fraud:

Last June GOP political consultant Fred Karger filed a complaint with Massachusetts state election officials alleging that Romney voted in several elections without residing in the state.


also, I'm not sure if this constitutes a felony or not but it seems to imply cronyism if not collusion:

Romney may not want people to know that Bain owned a company called Stericycle that disposed of aborted fetuses. Although some say that Romney severed ties with Bain in 2002, Bain went on to haul in huge profits from Stericycle's disposal of aborted babies from 2002-2004 while Romney was governor. I speculate that at least some of the paperwork that Romney destroyed while he was governor may have documented Romney's involvement in coordinating state funded abortions in Romneycare. Did Bain-owned Stericycle profit in any way from any legislation that Romney may have enacted or coordinated between 2002-2004?

"Another SEC document filed November 30, 1999, by Stericycle also names Romney as an individual who holds "voting and dispositive power" with respect to the stock owned by Bain. If Romney had fully retired from the private equity firm he founded, why would he be the only Bain executive named as the person in control of this large amount of Stericycle stock?...

In 2001, the Bain-Madison Dearborn partnership that had invested in the company sold 40 percent of its holdings in Stericycle for about $88 million—marking a hefty profit on its original investment of $75 million. The Bain-related group sold the rest of its holdings by 2004. By that point it had earned $49.5 million. link"

ATS



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Words have meanings...let's review some of them.


First let's look at the quote:


"Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony, Or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investments."



Now let's look at some definitions...since some people seem to not know what the words "either" and "or" mean.

Either:


1: being the one and the other of two : each

2: being the one or the other of two


Or


1: used as a function word to indicate an alternative , the equivalent or substitutive character of two words or phrases , or approximation or uncertainty



So, it appears that the comment that Stephanie Cutter made was not an accusation at all *GASP*. It is clearly laying out two possible options...which is why she used the words "EITHER" and "OR"...meaning that there are two possibilities...but not commenting on which one is the truth.

The only way to find out that truth is for Romney to release his tax records.

Words mean things...and Obama was 100% correct, no matter what Hannity says, No one ACCUSED Romney of commiting a felony....only laying out the only two possible options.



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Boy, the Republicans really don't like it when the Democrats play by their rules, do they? Would it help if Obama said he "apologized" and got his wording wrong? That's normally the GOP response to these things. I mean, if Romney isn't held responsible for his PAC ads, why should Obama be responsible for his?

Obama is playing the same game the GOP has for YEARS and the GOP doesn't like it.


Which Romney PAC ad is a blatant lie?



posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
To the OP: Can we see the original accusation of Romney being a felon? I mean, if Obama's denying it, can you prove him wrong and show where Romney was accused of a felony? Because I think they said he's EITHER lying or committed a felony. Thanks.


reply to post by getreadyalready
 


You make too damn much sense.


I have the same criticisms about Obama. I think he could be a leader if he didn't try so hard to compromise. If a compromise can't be reached, don't keep trying to compromise. Do something different. I hopw he'll be a better leader in his second term.


edit on 8/20/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)


The accusation was by Cutter.

“Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people.”

I clearly see the word felony. Neither of those is correct. He did not lie or misrepresent himself. It's quite common, think of it as a divorce. Just because the two people are working out the legal issues for the finalized divorce to happen does not mean they haven't parted ways. They may have each others names on the house and cars, but that doesn't mean they are lying when they tell people they are no longer together.



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