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Especially since, in some states, rape convictions can still get you the chair.
Kennedy v. Louisiana, 554 U.S. ___ (2008) was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that the Eighth Amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause did not permit a state to punish the crime of rape with the death penalty if the victim does not die and death was not intended, therefore if a person is convicted of rape he or she is not eligible for the death penalty according to the US supreme courts Ruling Kennedy v. Louisiana 554 U.S.
Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by James1982
Hmmm, not dancing, I feel I have stated my position, and am loathed to repeat it for the Victim Deniers in this thread.
Women, ideally should be able to present themselves as they please with out the fear of being labelled as "inviting rape"
When those women who do cover themselves modestly also get raped, it is saying, that it is the rapist not the victim who has to address their behaviour
A rape will take place not always by a man in a bar who likes the look of you drunk or in a short skirt. In fact that is not the majority of instances.
Mostly it is by family members, spouses etc, people they know. The psychology of a victim being unable to remove them selves instantly from a violent situation has nothing to do with them being childish, it is a very deep and sad way for someone to exist. And takes a lot to reprogram how they feel about themselves and what they feel the deserve/don't deserve.
Is that clear enough?
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by Libertygal
Especially since, in some states, rape convictions can still get you the chair.
They cannot, since 2008:
Kennedy v. Louisiana, 554 U.S. ___ (2008) was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that the Eighth Amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause did not permit a state to punish the crime of rape with the death penalty if the victim does not die and death was not intended, therefore if a person is convicted of rape he or she is not eligible for the death penalty according to the US supreme courts Ruling Kennedy v. Louisiana 554 U.S.
en.wikipedia.org...
Congress or any state legislature may prescribe the death penalty, also known as capital punishment, for murder and other capital crimes. The Supreme Court has ruled that the death penalty is not a per se violation of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment, but the Eighth Amendment does shape certain procedural aspects regarding when a jury may use the death penalty and how it must be carried out. Because of the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause, the Eighth Amendment applies against the states, as well as the federal government.
2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 10 - SENTENCE AND PUNISHMENT
ARTICLE 2 - DEATH PENALTY GENERALLY
§ 17-10-30 - Procedure for imposition of death penalty generally
O.C.G.A. 17-10-30 (2010)
17-10-30. Procedure for imposition of death penalty generally
(a) The death penalty may be imposed for the offenses of aircraft hijacking or treason in any case.
(b) In all cases of other offenses for which the death penalty may be authorized, the judge shall consider, or he shall include in his instructions to the jury for it to consider, any mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances otherwise authorized by law and any of the following statutory aggravating circumstances which may be supported by the evidence:
(1) The offense of murder, rape, armed robbery, or kidnapping was committed by a person with a prior record of conviction for a capital felony;
(2) The offense of murder, rape, armed robbery, or kidnapping was committed while the offender was engaged in the commission of another capital felony or aggravated battery, or the offense of murder was committed while the offender was engaged in the commission of burglary or arson in the first degree;
(7) The offense of murder, rape, armed robbery, or kidnapping was outrageously or wantonly vile, horrible, or inhuman in that it involved torture, depravity of mind, or an aggravated battery to the victim;
(11) The offense of murder, rape, or kidnapping was committed by a person previously convicted of rape, aggravated sodomy, aggravated child molestation, or aggravated sexual battery.
Except in cases of treason or aircraft hijacking, unless at least one of the statutory aggravating circumstances enumerated in subsection (b) of this Code section is so found, the death penalty shall not be imposed.
Originally posted by James1982
Nope, didn't really answer anything. Nothing in that post related to anything I posted or any questions I proposed.
It's a pretty simple question, really. Should women be told they are helpless and can't do anything about it, or told they are strong and able to defend themselves and lower their chance of something bad happening? I have no idea why you keep dancing around answering it, it's not some trick question or something.
Originally posted by Vedderman
I won't interject on many things being argued about rape except one thing:
I am a male in my 20s. I was sexually molested by an adult male (whom I knew and trusted) as a child. I remember it vividly. That said, I don't give a hoot anymore! I can obviously only speak for myself, but I felt like someone with experience should comment that no, rape doesn't always hang over your shoulder. I thought long and hard about it as a child up into my teen years, and did go through far too much therapy, but I - with much help from my family and therapists - realized it was in the past. Because I got over it, I don't see why anyone can't get over it with time, support, and proper emotional control. So if anyone who has been a victim or survivor reads this post, know that you can get past it...just keep trying!
Originally posted by smyleegrl
So on to the myths concerning rape. This is a list compiled by the University of Minnesota Duluth, please visit this link to read more. Website
Myth 1: Rape is sex.
Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. One out of every eight adult women has been a victim of forcible rape. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.
Myth 3: Rapists are non-white. Rapists are lower class. Rapists are "Criminal types".
Fact: Rapists that fit the myth are more likely to be prosecuted but a rapist can be anyone: doctor, policeman, clergyman, social worker or corporate president.
Myth 4: Men can't be raped.
Fact: There were approximately 20,000 sexual assaults of males ages 12 and over in the United States in 1991.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
*A lot of people ridicule this, stating that men have to be aroused in order to have sex. Not so. And the sooner we realize that men can be victimized, the better.
Myth 7: Sexual assault usually occurs between strangers.
Fact: Over 70% of rape victims know their attackers.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
*I knew my attacker. He was a trusted friend.
Then someone has some 'splainin' to do...
any of the following statutory aggravating circumstances which may be supported by the evidence:
Originally posted by packoftwenty
Originally posted by smyleegrl
*I knew my attacker. He was a trusted friend.
*snip*Clue: the ones who aren't violent and aggressive aren't capable of rape. I'm incapable of rape. I couldn't get an erection if I was threatening somebody - that's a completely unnatural state. Only neurotic men are capable of being 'turned on' when somebody else is being hurt. You SHOULD be able to recognise such men, especially if you're 'friends' with them.
Originally posted by kudegras
As a Father of a seventeen year old daughter who is starting to go out with friends to parties and such, it worries me no end that she could be subject to such a situation.
I was brought up to respect women having 2 sisters and I was told point of fact by my Father that No meant No.
Any act that forces one persons will on another person against their wishes is a crime in my view and I see Rape as the worst of these crimes.