posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 05:02 PM
reply to post by truejew
TextWe are told that when Christ returns, the dead will rise first. How can the dead be in heaven and be the first to rise during the future coming of
Christ. Also, if one of your saint's graves were to be opened up, their body would still be there in the grave.
Pardon me again truejew i have my problem solved now so will continue with what I had meant to say.
I assume you mean -- 1Thessalonians 4:16, 17 -- "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and
with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the
clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
When a person dies the body returns to this earth and never rises again. To believe otherwise is not of Jesus but Judaic custom. Jesus teaches that
the dead flesh, bone, and blood is gone forever and will never be allowed into the celestial kingdom. Only the spiritual body remains and it is the
spiritual body which is judged,
1Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."
Right now there are two groups of righteous people. The first group are those in the kingdom of heaven. These righteous people have been judged and
found worthy of eternal life. The unrighteous will be in hell up to this point.
The second group of people are those who have NOT been accountable in this life. Aborted, murdered and mentally challenged. You must be accountable
to receive a judgment for sins. This second group is in Jesus who has life in Himself as the Father has life. This mystery is the same as pertained
to Jesus' friend Lazarus. Lazarus was in Jesus and had not been judged. He was restored and not resurrected in that account.
Thessalonians refers to the return of Christ to this earth to start His 1,000 years reign. Within an instant the righteous people of this earth
instantly drop dead and within a blink of an eye their souls are received into the Kingdom of God. When Christ comes to gather these righteous people
he will also bring with Him The righteous souls who have already died and are in the Kingdom which He brings with Him. The dead in Christ are those
souls who abide in Him and are called the dead in Christ. The dead in Christ will be restored first and then the righteous who are alive upon this
earth are gathered.
We then wind up with the family of God in one group of people. Dead in Christ to those of that time were called asleep. The accountable soul does
not sleep but is judged immediately upon death and immediately enters the abode of heaven (Kingdom of God) or hell. Jesus never teaches that the
earthly body resurrects.