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I am offered a Lifeline, but how can I leave American Madness

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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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Regardless what you individually are

What I would classify as evil (warmonger, globalist, zionist, believer in private central banks, debt etc)
Or what I would classify as good (speaking about 9/11, speaking truth no matter what, patriot etc)

Would you leave it all behind, and go to a secluded but lavish property with access to beaches,
outside of North America, organic food, hot women, healthy environment, people generally not
involved in anything political, just living their life, plenty of money for restaurants, night life etc

I can.....I am offered that choice right now, I call it lifeline, it would be very different way of life,
an ideal way for me at least.

I could find a woman there, marry, start a family, be happy.

So why the hell am I still here and posting to ATS no less.

I feel guilty..........guilty to leave when storms are coming. I feel like I am needed, like something
greater than me wants me to stay in this S**T hole. If I go its like I am abandoning people who
will need my help when SHTF.

Am I just a self important maniac with illusions of grandeur, or should I "get real" and take the
lifeline faster than a drowning man a lifeboat.


don't yell at me for not immediately posting back, I'll be back in 24 hr
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Sorry the offer has been taken by someone else and there are no more spaces here.
I recall the line from a movie ."he who hesitates ,masturbates" I think it was 'The Cable Guy"



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Don't feel guilty, you will feel more guilty if you do not take this opportunity and remain in America. There' a big world out there see it while you can.
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:45 AM
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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Now is the time and the time is now.............



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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My suggestion is to take it (if it's truly a 'lifeline'). You can always come back when things get better.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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If your destination is not exactly some 3rd world country ###hole, you should go. Why stay if you're not happy?
If you do NOT go, you might miss a better life and won't ever know what you missed. The world is open, nothing is worse than living some routine-life day-in and out and not being happy.

HOWEVER - you should also think that over for a while and not have unrealistic expectations. What will you gain, what will you miss!?



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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from the way you put it its a no braier

GO!!!!!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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"Would you leave it all behind, and go to a secluded but lavish property with access to beaches,
outside of North America, organic food, hot women, healthy environment, people generally not
involved in anything political, just living their life, plenty of money for restaurants, night life etc"

Too late my friend. North Queensland is taken.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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You know you make a very logical and sane argument, I will consider it strongly



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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WOW so many of you are saying go.

I am starting to feel stupid for even thinking about staying........honestly



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:55 AM
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Can you tell us the name of the place? I want to check it out. Sounds awsome man! Ya go... are you kidding???



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:13 AM
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What's the downside? You can always come back.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 04:06 AM
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The best advice i could give you is never live life leaving regret.

I have ended up in a lot of different places around the U.S. because of unusual reasons,
but i dont regret any of them.

From my point of view, i would not of asked, i would be posting pictures of my new home.
Would of already taken the offer and been there.

You only live once, Enjoy every opportunity you get no mater how big or small.

Seriously you are worried about not being here to fight the good fight? for what?
will your fight here if you were to stay actually make a difference? Things are in motion here and sadly there is not much any of us can do about it but hang on for the ride. You my friend have the chance to change that ride.

Whats the worst that could happen? 3 months from now you hate it, and got hit on buy a guy named bubba but dressed in a wig and skirt so you move back? kidding, but seriously, its not like its a non reversible decision, i say give it a shot, see what happens.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 04:12 AM
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If it's truly as you describe- Of course you should go! Silly person, get thee away to your new life.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by petertheskinny
WOW so many of you are saying go.

I am starting to feel stupid for even thinking about staying........honestly


If you don't mind me asking, where is this land of milk and honey you could be going too. Sounds nice, might book a holiday there



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 04:19 AM
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Three years ago I was offered to go and live with my dad in Canada. I had my visa ready and he was already out there, staying for a few months then coming back to the UK for a few months and so on. I met my missus during this and we decided we wanted to have kids. I stayed in the UK for her sake and because I found it too hard to leave my brother behind.
My Dad is now living and working in Canada and is staying there permanently. He loves it out there and when me, my missus and my little boy went to see him last september, I loved it. I didn't want to leave. We went to the mountains, the first time I have ever seen them in person. It was beautiful.
Now i'm back in the UK and we are struggling. Living from one paycheck to the other and finding it hard to live a normal life with the amount of taxes etc etc to pay.
Over here you are punished if you work, yet, if you are a waster with 6 kids they (the goverrnment) will pay for everything for you. No stress for the lazy over here.

I guess what i'm trying to say is, go for it. If you have the opportunity. Do it. You can always return.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Seems only you would have the answer to this question.

That being said, one less unwitting tax payer funding global imperialism can't be a bad thing.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by petertheskinny
Regardless what you individually are

What I would classify as evil ...
Or what I would classify as good ...

Would you leave it all behind, and go to a secluded but lavish property with access to beaches,
outside of North America, organic food, hot women, healthy environment, people generally not
involved in anything political, just living their life, plenty of money for restaurants, night life etc

I can.....I am offered that choice right now, I call it lifeline, it would be very different way of life,
an ideal way for me at least.

I could find a woman there, marry, start a family, be happy.

So why the hell am I still here and posting to ATS no less.

I feel guilty..........guilty to leave when storms are coming. I feel like I am needed, like something
greater than me wants me to stay in this S**T hole. If I go its like I am abandoning people who
will need my help when SHTF.

Am I just a self important maniac with illusions of grandeur, or should I "get real" and take the
lifeline faster than a drowning man a lifeboat.


Why not? I did. Came here to check it out over 7 years ago, made it permanent 6 years ago, and haven't set foot in the US in 5 years. No regrets, no intention of ever going back. My life is here now. I love it!

But, you know, there are realities to deal with. Are you independently wealthy or at least have a life-vest if you have to abandon the dream? Restaurants, night life - even in the best circumstances cost money, which you say there is plenty of. Is someone else paying the freight? Perhaps there is a quid pro quo or some enterprise to sustain all that. At the very least you will have to keep from annoying your benefactor. Just make sure you can swim ashore if you have to or willing and able to deal with consequences. If all goes well for a long, long time you still have to sustain yourself to the very end. It can all be do-able but give it some realistic thought.

You say - "I could find a woman there, marry, start a family, be happy." I might assume those are your yet-unachieved objectives. Again, those things cost. Where those things are affordable there is usually not jobs or pay available in the local economy that you would be accustomed to accepting. $10 - 15 a day for butt-busting work may not be appealing, but you say, "plenty of money for restaurants, night life etc." And the truth is you could "find a woman, marry, start a family, be happy" where you are. The ability to be happy wherever you are will still be required to be happy somewhere else. Need I mention that having a woman, marriage, and family doesn't necessarily equate to happiness?

Now, it seems you are saying, the only thing stopping you is a feeling that you may be abandoning your friends and countrymen in times of a coming struggle. If you had been on the Titanic would your staying on-board and going down with it given it a bit more floatation to keep it from sinking quite as rapidly? Unless you had some other plan in mind or have one in mind to save America despite influential people with other plans and a whole bunch of fools that just don't really care then I would consider other viable options. Of course if you strongly feel a calling... well, Hobbits don't like adventures either. Whatever reservations you may have for taking either course of action may have merit for consideration. Not all heroes receive posthumous honors.

You don't mention where you are thinking of going. If you had I might have been able to offer you a clue or two about some things to expect there. Almost no place is perfect with no downsides to contend with. Regardless, once you leave native soil your status in a foreign country is not as solid as in your own. And, Uncle Sam doesn't like his nephews wandering too far away and forgetting to send some money back home. If you earn a dime in another country he still wants his cut of it. Then their is foreign bureaucracy to contend with that makes your dealing with the Motor Vehicles Department back home seem like a stroll through the park. tourists can pretty much lay low and not have to deal with those things much, but if you intend to stay and do all that family stuff... have fun and check your American attitude at the door - or better yet, don't take it with you across international boundaries.

I did what you are talking about. It is do-able for many but not that easy for everyone. I won't go back to that former life.




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