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Finally after all these years- A place to tell my secret story!

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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:14 AM
Explanation: I have quoted the OP and edited it to add spacing ... any editing errors my own ok.

Originally posted by nevernothing

So here I am.

After all those years of dealing with the questions that arise from all I've learned alone. Now finally, people are waking up and I can tell my story of revelations.

First, I would like to say it is an honor to join ATS after visiting the site for several years.

I am an American living on the east-coast in a heavily military state beside another more military state, so I get to watch it move and transform. It has been very interesting to watch it's changes in tactics and methods, and very scary the contractor growth over the past decade.

I am in my 40s and my story of interest started when I was about 12 years old.

My fathers family were Shriners and I had just met them. They had disowned my father years before for reasons I did not know or ever found out. His father had died at the early age of 36 while still in the military officially of a heart attack.

I have never found anything to dispute that, but I have learned that real truth can be elusive, but I digress.

I had just met my fathers family, and they told me they wanted me to move in with em for awhile, to help ease my mothers burden. My mom was straddled with three growing boys and a sorry husband so, it seemed a great jesture of help for my imediate family, so I agreed.

They had a huge house, at least it seemed to me cause we, my mom and brothers, never had much, and we struggled for that. It was a huge change in lifestyle for me, and for my personality, it was just what I needed.
I was very curious about the world and how it worked, and these people seemed more than happy to introduce it to me in a very big way.

Soon afterward, my great grandfather had me going and helping the Shriners with their charity events, and ther were many. Very helpful people those Shriners and I grew to love what they were doing and of course wanted to get more involved.

But I found it curious that I would get privilages normally reserved to degree Shriners and Masons. I mean I could pretty much go and do what I wanted, and was given access to an extremely large amount of historical and mathmatical information.

I soaked it all up and, just like I feel they wanted, started seeing the world in a whole new light. I had always previously been extremely naive about thinking that everyone only wanted to help each other and that all authority figures only had the best of intentions.

Of course I soon come to know, disheartantly, how much of a dog eat dog world it was and that everyone had their own agendas.

So, I also noticed that a certain group of guys that were doing work through the Shriners, seemed to be very organised and following intensly an agenda that they clearly didn't fully understand themselves.

So, who were they following? Yeah, I had to know because that was, and is one focused group of individuals.

Soon I became a part of that group but mabe I was just to curious about where the orders were coming from, so soon I was told in order to stay a part of this group I would have to be initiated in to the Masons proper. I agreed.

Now I wont go into to much detail now about the initiations, nor may I ever, cause really, most of you won't beleive the reality that you are opened to, so will dimiss it.

But we'll see if I crack later and tell some things upon someone aproaching this question in the right manner. Some of you already now why I must be this way.

Anyway, turns out my fathers family, and I keep calling them that for a reason besides the fact that they are, and that is that they are not mine anymore.

For some reasons I still don't understand, the initiations had what the Masons said, and when I say Masons, I say it because you would not know the groups specific name or symbol, well, mabe some of you will, but not many, I had what the Masons said was an unprecedented reaction, and that those at the highest levels say is a dangerous new anomally.

Long story short, the trauma portion of the "learning", taught me how to escape mind manipulation. And in a totally weird way in which I can scare the living daylights out of a programmer.

I wont say much more than that, specifically because I don't know how I am able to do this, but let's just say I have an unusuall defense that comes from the simple knowledge that something never comes from nothing.

Personal Disclosure: Continued next post ...

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:14 AM
Explanation: Continued from previous post ...

Turns out if you think about it hard enough, is the basic principle of quantum physics, something I know a remarkable amount about for some unknown reason.

Something else I should metion here is that shortly before I went to live with those people, I had a very strange experience.

I was 12, and thinking on, if their was a God, how could you prove it in a way that would convince non beleivers.

Suddenly, after a couple of years of trying to meditate but being to young to figure it all out, I went into a sort of trance, and began to have what I guess would be a vision.

In this vision, I saw a ball. And this ball was connected to other balls by magical energy that connected it to other balls, that connected to even bigger balls, and so forth and so on until I saw a man. It was me!

And a voice said," And this is how I created all things." And I said," Who are you? God?" And the voice said," I am the beginning and the end. The first and the last. I am that I am!" And I knew this to mean that he, or it, was the first entity to know that it was, and that all things revealed in reality henceforth was revealed, mabe even its existance owed to this entity.

I have had many more such revealing visions since then, and upon prodding, I will reveal them to you later. In fact, I sometimes wonder if this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

You know, My purpose. I believe that everyone has a specific purpose for this world. No, I don't claim to have all the answers!

But, since I left the group, something I will say never happens that far up the ladder, but again, I have a remarkable defense, so mabe thats why, I don't know but I am still alive, but since I left the group, I have been "led" to many revealing things.

And this is the true reason I need support from and become part of a group such as yourself to help me sort it all out. You know what they say, the more you learn, the more questions you have. Let me tell you some of what I've seen.

When I got home, I started doing alot of driving to help me think and explore. One day, I drove up on an unknown research facility run by Wake Forest.

But my training help me notice that all the buildings did not belong to the college, but that indeed most of the buildings were UN military.

How do I know they are UN and not US?

Well let's just say that I was escorted out and interoggated on how I beat their defenses. I would not, nor will I not say.

Of course I was taken into custody, and that is where I met a man who would continually get me out of these type of situations.

I do not know why but, I have a pretty good idea who he works for. I would even state his name but, that keeps changing so.

Not long after that, I have been "led" to all kind of things like that and recieved anamous papers on MKultra, Harp, UFO truths, and much more.

Why? Again, that is why I'm here. I have no idea and its very unsettling. Now that so many are versed on these topics, mabe you can help me understand what they want me to know.


Personal Disclosure: I hope that helps.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:17 AM
reply to post by shells4u
Yes! Funny how they leave ALL info out there to find when they could easily hide it from us. Even they have to follow the rules! That is really close, good job. Heres another revelation to help you. The lighning bolt curves under the moon and over the star! Seems I just gave you nothing, but actually it is important in it's interpretation.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:17 AM
reply to post by OmegaLogos

it helps..

and you did it to be helpful.. which is kind of you.

edit on 20-8-2012 by WhisperingWinds because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:22 AM
You seemed to have missed my question so I re-posted it below.

reply to post by nevernothing

Are you a 3rd degree Master Mason, because I have never heard these things you write about?
so soon I was told in order to stay a part of this group I would have to be initiated in to the Masons proper. I agreed. Now I wont go into to much detail now about the initiations, nor may I ever, cause really, most of you won't beleive the reality that you are opened to, so will dimiss it.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:24 AM
reply to post by 3n19m470
Thanks for the welcome!! And don't worry, I won't be arguing. Everone comes to truth their own way and, who am I to decide when they are ready to receive info? I can only tell what I've experienced and if they chose to look away or not to beleive, let them prove me wrong. Heck, I admit I do not have the answers to much I am shown. Thanks again, I plan on being here awhile.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:34 AM
reply to post by Sauron
Thanks for reading my post. First, and this will be revealing to some, I will say that I hear 3rd degree mason all the time, well, truth be known and sorry guys~ Once you reach a certain point of learning and "skills" so to speak, there are no degrees! Sure, some of you who think you know all on this remember, someone taught you, and someone was over them and so on. Now with that being said, I WAS a very high degree mason and have retained certain skills and truths but, for reasons I will not go into know, I will NEVER be a lawyer, so no politics, never a doctor because I am still awed by the power of blood, and no spy because I still honor only one authoritative power. This is all I can say on this!

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:45 AM
reply to post by nevernothing

So you are Master Mason of the Sublime Degree. ?

I can only assume by your comment of being a High Level Mason that you must be a 3rd Degree Craft Lodge Mason, or maybe just a Blue Lodge Mason.

I look forward to reading your thread once you attain 20 posts I would like to hear about this mason stuff and your sources.

Super Moderator.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:46 AM
reply to post by JamesCookieIII
Awesome response to the H.A.A.R.P. question. Seems to be alot of interest there so I guess I should say something on it. I was told to look at the weather part of it but, I still haven't seen enough evidence to say that is what they are or would be using for that but, I do know about how and why it resonates. It is Tesla tech but learned about experimenting with invisibility. Turns out in those test you need a certain vibration frequency, and while getting there they came upon a vibration wave they had been looking for for along time. It is the brain frequency right outside of your reality or conciousness. Upon reaching it, they found they could make people, and in H.A.A.R.P.s case a mass of people, have certain reactions. No, not doing excactly what they want you to do, there are other methods for that, but they can make you feel peaceful, or agitated this way. Turns out your right, they are taking down H.A.A.R.P., but only because they found they need even less poer to acheive their goal. But you should know, a new facility is being built under funding from our friends the UN in a more unknown location.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:48 AM
reply to post by skepticconwatcher

Dude your dp freaks me out, i dont know why but when i see a white owl. I feel like i am having a heart attack. Is there a common white owl phobia? Its not the owl itself, i like animals especially owls. But something about the white on black eyes.

Yea i am a loser..owls ..i mean wtf. An alligator is somehting to fear but white frigging owls?

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 01:53 AM
reply to post by shells4u
NO! My experience with the Shriners is that they are caring, hard working Christians mostly. But, I met the GROUP working with the Shriners. Most of those guys didn't even know who the guys in that group were, even though they saw them often. I was introduced to them through my great grandfather who they know well, upon my asking if I could help them. This was 1978. Turns out how much you know at first depends on you asking the right questions.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:07 AM
reply to post by LastProphet527
Thanks for reading my post! Yes, I know I am exposing myself but, they know who I am, where I am, and WHAT I am. No, I am not more than most but apparently I have been given a gift of protection. How long? I don't know. But I will say that they have worked on me for years already. I have a trump card...Hahahaha. No, you know I am not laughing at the powers that be, only in the fact that they don't know everything and they know this. Heck, we'd all be dead already if they knew it all. But, and I know this is cryptic but, in the world of vibrations, we all have the power to make music, and it will effect people. All energy comes from one source and I said it before, I will bow down to the one that knew he was FIRST and noone or nothing else - wrote a SONG about it and it serves me well. AND, they truly don't see me as a threat, because for some srtange reason, alot of the things revealed to me come from THEM>

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:09 AM
People generate something out of nothing all the time.

A kind act

A compliment


Want to generate some positive energy? Try along these lines...
edit on 20-8-2012 by intrptr because: spelling

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:11 AM
reply to post by nevernothing heres my guess---the lightning bolt is not only between the star and the moon but it is also holding them each up and in their own space...separating and also supporting...okay...whenever I see a lightning bolt in my minds eye it reminds me of a divining the bolt becomes DIVINE when I see a crescent moon it reminds me of (something not yet finished or revealed)MYSTERY....the star reminds me of INTELLIGENCE...Hmmmm ....when mystery and intelligence collide with the divine...BANG!!!

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:13 AM
reply to post by OmegaLogos
Thank You! That was above and beyond and I really appreciate it. Again, sorry about how it was written. It was years in wanting to get out...Thanks again for helping people read my post!!

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:14 AM
Sounds interesting, but can you put some paragraph breaks in future writing.................bloody hard work that was.............

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:15 AM
reply to post by nevernothing

Question, do you experience visions of places you have never been to? Or you able to alter things or events by your will?
I feels strange asking those questions, but (i am hardcore skeptic of this i presume i am crazy more logical, less bs) but i have this intense vision of places, times even the universe. I am an astronomer and skeptic of all things unprovable (yes including e.t visiting us and the existence of god i am an individual who typically considers such things as unhealthy)
But as long as i can remember i would get flashes of things before they would happen, my mother would tell me it was normal and that everyone in the family (mostly women) had it. Peer into events far before they took place, even see apparitions, considered as ghosts (i saw shadows was told never to stare at them)
As time passed i became more focused on the stars (age 5) i would be entraced to the point someone would have to shake me to even be aware of anything other than the universe. Why? Well thats where these visions got weird, at first it started as a dream, i felt i was taken somewhere far away, to be shown the universe in a closer details.
I saw nebulas, and was told the different elements and their colour disposition (as my eyes would be limited to seeing) i was shown a Jupiter like world, on fire, i never had even thought such a thing possible. A planet with a electromagnetic field so powerful, nearby (metallic compound) comets get sucked in. Binary stars being the common, and dark worlds without stars. But this dream turned into a nightmare, i was home sick. I wanted to go back, we went back. To this day when i look at the stars i see them, images of places far away. (logically an over active imagination capable of theorizing ideas based off current understandings of physics and natural laws) isn't the human brain amazing?

But i still consider this "visions" as a mild form of schizophrenia (although my doctor says i perfectly fine, mentally and physically and apparently I have a high iq but i think iq tests are bs too) the reason i say that is because i consider everything that cannot be proven as flawed and delusional and logically i must follow what i consider real.

So i post this on this thread, not exactly sure why but feel the op might give their two cents. Something about your story, seems familiar gives me a feeling of deju vu...especially the quantum physics stuff? I find i am able to do things, one wouldn't consider "normal"

Also you should know i have seen a vision of one saying i am the first and the last...same thing ...alpha and the omega.
edit on 20-8-2012 by Anthony1138 because: To add final line

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:17 AM
reply to post by intrptr
Thanks for reading!! But those things you spoke of~ did they not come out of something. A thought, a need, a reason? Where did kindness come from and wasn't it taught to you by someone else? I am all for inspiring and giving positive feedback, but everyone has there own way of interpreting, and I surely respect that.

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:36 AM
reply to post by Sauron
Thank you for paying attention and reading my post! Mabe I should clarify, I was part of a Masonic order, brought in by my great grandfather upon my request, eagerness to learn, and willingness to serve. I AM NOT A MASON, even thogh I might be considered so in certain ranks. As far as degrees go, I responded to this but yes, I was considered a Master by some, not myself. See, trouble came on self empowerment, and knowledge of, for lack of a better term, the nature of reality.
As I can tell you are knowledgeable here so I wont dilly dally with you. It is hard though to choose words in a way you will recognise, but not sound crazy to others but I'll try. I came to a point where I would be an asset to society, and was shown my future path, if I so chose of course. But, knowing the true nature of our REALITY~ I choose a different unchartered path. And it is not a path certain people agree with or condone.
But I know through my visits with "leaders" that there are openings for new ground being covered and disagreements in the true path. I have been given room to ' step back' if you will and chart my own way, given an ability to control alternate realities in a way that effects ours. That is as much as I can do~ For now!

posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:36 AM
Nice story, just remember, paragraphs are cool.

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