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Originally posted by GoldenRuled
I'm christian. I have no opinion on homosexuality except, God said it's wrong. Haven't heard anything from the last 2 millenia indicating He changed his mind.
"Senate Bill 1172, which would prohibit all “sexual orientation change efforts” for minors, is through the legislature and slated to land on the (Ca)governor's desk in September. Proponents argue the state law would protect civil rights, pointing to studies that show kids who undergo the reparative therapy are more likely than other kids to suffer from depression, drug abuse and suicide attempts."
Quite a slippery slope for a bill that prevents child abuse (which is basically what this is). Anyways, this bill is a step in the right direction. Good on them.
Originally posted by fallow the light
A bill that tells parents how they can and can not raise their children huh?
So this does mean that parents are not allowed to direct their child to be gay as well as strait right?
Would this make it illegal to raise your male child to be a female or vise versa?
I think the Government needs to stay out of psychology.
Yes, the authoritative right to not be psychologically damaged by their parents. Shame on them.
Originally posted by macman
The Govt creating a law is WRONG in so many ways.
This reeks of UN involvement, and their plan to give children authoritative rights over their parents.
The Bill is wrong in so many ways.
Originally posted by technical difficulties
Yes, the authoritative right to not be psychologically damaged by their parents. Shame on them.edit on 20-8-2012 by technical difficulties because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by macman
So, you and a handful or moronic Progressive Lawmakers get to deem what is damaging, what limits there are and what needs to be lawful and unlawful?
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
It doesn't cover the same thing done from the other direction...does it? (cut for space)
That's a fair point but, statistically, in America how likely is this to happen compared to it the other way around? I'm not disputing the fact that your apocryphal scenario happens but for every time that happens, how many times is young Randy getting a whupping from Pa's belt for being a sissy?
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Up here we have Children's Aid...I'm sure you have an equivalent...and that's exactly what their role is. To enforce societal laws regarding children. In fact, they have greater enforcement powers than cops. And in the courts, children can be assigned advocates if the parents do not appear to be acting in the best interests of the child.
If you think you get to set the rules yourself...you're kidding yourself. And frankly, a daily read of any newspaper just reinforces the need for kids to be protected. Even from self-professed Christians.edit on 20-8-2012 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because, eh?
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by macman
Actually science says it's harmful. There are numerous articles out there that have found conversion therapy is not only ineffective by harmful. Due to the studies a number of professional organizations, including the AMA and APA, have stated that they do not support the practice of conversion therapy.
Therapeutic Antidotes: Helping Gay and Bisexual Men Recover from Conversion Therapies
Changing sexual orientation: A consumers' report
American Psychological Associationedit on 8/20/2012 by Xcalibur254 because: (no reason given)