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Romney's Faith-Will Some Christians Not Accept a Mormon President???

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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If they go to an anti-gay church then they are anti-gay.There is no way you can sit through anti-gay seminars if you aren't. It would repulse any normal non-hateful person. All Mormon churches teach that brown people are cursed, that is how they became brown, it is in their holy book. The only reason why Obama got behind gay marriage is because of his voting base. Gay people are generally democrats and most liberals supports gay marriage.



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So Obama isn't anti-gay anymore, yet WHEN HE WAS 30, he went to an anti-gay church.

Hmmm, interesting.




posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Every religion is a cult they are all shoot offs of one-another,

I am going to write in Bees name, cause he is buying me a barbie doll.




Thanks, Stormdancer!



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Djayed


I am trying to determine who thinks Mormons are in a cult, that is the purpose of the thread. I am not trying to have a theological discussion of the in depth belief systems on all religions. That would belong in the religion category, This thread is regarding Romney being Mormon and the Mormon religion, nothing more!
edit on 8/19/2012 by Djayed because: (no reason given)


All I'm doing is exposing the fallicy in logic that has been the running theme in this thread. I'm just comparing the two religions.

Romney is bad because he belongs to a religious organisation that was racist. So that makes Romney racist.

Christianity is anti-gay. So that makes all christians anti-gay.





I didn't bring up that Romney was a racist, racism was brought up in the thread. My orginal Post was about all of the other crazy things Mormons believe in.




1) Mormons believe God is not eternal, or even the only God, but was who inhabited a planet in the star system Kolob.
2) They believe they are saved by obeying Mormon doctrine.
3) They believe that God had a god that elevated God to godhood and that they, too, can be elevated to godhood. 4) They believe they lived as full-grown adults (the Doctrine of Pre-existence) in a spirit world before they were born. In Pre-Existence, they had friends and family and relationships and knowledge. While there, they were presented with the Plan of Salvation, which included being given a choice to be born as humans with the prize at the end being godhood of their own planet. They didn't have to and some were content to stay in the spirit world where they were already in heaven instead of taking the plunge and getting a shot at being God.
5) They believe that when their spirits passed into existence, they also passed through a Veil of Forgetfulness where they forgot their previous spirit lives. Here, they recreate their pre-existent families as eternal families.
6) Jesus and Satan were brothers and God liked Jesus' plan best so Satan rebelled. Mormons don't believe in the sin nature, or 'original sin'.
7) Mormons believe the purpose of human existence is to become like God.
8) Mormons also believe it is ok to lie about their beliefs and affiliations to non-Mormons and to new Mormon recruits under the 'principle' of "milk before meat.". So they are free to deny the crazier parts, (God was a man, there are lots of Gods, including them, they take spirit wives to become goddesses, etc.) on the principle that until a Mormon has been sufficiently indoctrinated, they will recognize how crazy it sounds and maybe refuse to join or even quit and then spread the word.
9) Mormons believe that after they die, they move back to the spirit world. Some of them are imprisoned for not believing the Mormon gospel while on earth. Those that never heard the Mormon Gospel will be visited by Mormon spirit missionaries.
10) Mormons believe that the dead can be saved after death if they are baptized by proxy by living Mormons.
11) Mormons in this spirit world can still sin: "Those who are righteous in this life will still be righteous. Those who were unrighteous will still be unrighteous. We will have the same desires after we die as we had while on this earth" (Gospel Fundamentals, "Life after Death," pg 195.).
12) Resurrection is a several parts and only those that had a perfect knowledge of the divinity of Christ yet chose Satan will be damned. The rest will go through various stages of perfection while in the post-life spirit world.
13) If you miss your dog, don't worry. Fido, (as well as every other dog, cat, hamster, pigeon, aardvark and platypus) will ALSO be resurrected during the last of the, umm, seven different resurrections taught by the LDS.
14) The Mormon Plan of Salvation is in seven parts as well, with final stage, logically enough, called the Final Judgment.
15) At Final Judgment, those finally judged go to one of three heavens, as befits their works, or to the Outer Darkness, which is Mormon hell. this is not a complete list of cultish doctrine but stand to suffice as proof why many Christians believe Mormonism is a cult


Now I didn't just start looking into Mormons recently, it actuall happened years ago when I saw a South Park episode and looked up what they said and it was true! It just blew me away!


I know it is silly but everything they say is what Mormons really believe in. Every time I see Romney I think "Dumb, Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb"
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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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I wonder if my name is in their archives somewhere?
Don't they do that?
Add random names as members.

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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I don't get the mormon religion either. But when mormons and I spoke of religion, they thought it creepy that I participated in ritualistic canibalism by taking the blood and body of Christ every sunday.

Niether one of us ever understood baptists.

I don't understand buddism.

My college girlfriend was wiccan.

And I think druids are cool.

Religion. It's goofy crazy. Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants that when we died, the mormons turned out to be right!

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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wow humans are weird, when you think about it.

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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I know it is silly but everything they say is what Mormons really believe in. Every time I see Romney I think "Dumb, Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb"


I know what you mean…Mormons have some wild beliefs compared to most Christians. The whole thing about “spirit babies” and “god having sex with Mary” is particularly bizarre to me.

Regardless, the people who made a stink about Romney’s Mormonism are virtually silent these days. They would rather have a Mormon than a Marxist. As usually it will be the lessor of two evils.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Djayed
 


Every religion is a cult they are all shoot offs of one-another,

I am going to write in Bees name, cause he is buying me a barbie doll.



Lol, I know I started the thread but I have a different stance on religion then most people. I think all religions are wrong and all religions are right and no one can know for sure until they die!

With the exclusions of: Scientology and Mormons for obvious reasons

The nicest religious group I met were pagens, they loved everyone, and thought you shouldn't hurt plants or bugs and suff...doesn't mean I am stripping down naked every full moon to envoke the power of the godess and god. I just know that some Christians believe any other religion will send its followers to hell.

So if that is their belief, how could those people vote for Romney?

I am voting for Obama because I could not bare to bring myself to vote for someone with the political stance of Mitt Romney. I do not believe that Romney would have the best interest of all Americans in mind with his decision, and I do not thing he has the civil rights of all Americans in mind with his political stances.

But again, I guess the purposes of the thread was to get the stance of the Christian republicans. I have my stance on what I think Mormons are, but regardless of what religion Mitt is, I dislike the man and do not agree with his policies!

I have said this before, I would have voted for Ron Paul because his stance on the war on drugs would help relieve a huge amount on our budgets, but release people sitting in jail on 3 strike marijuana charges. I do not think our tax dollars should be spent keeping those types of criminals behind bars.

But since he is too cazy everywhere else it would be a cold day before the republican party would have made him their candidate. So to ensure Romney doesn't get into office I HAVE to vote for Obama again. Since our country only cares about (D) or (R) and everything else always loses!


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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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I wonder if my name is in there archives somewhere?
Don't they do that?
Add random names as members.


While I was researching info for this thread I read that....I am pretty sure the Catholics have my information kept somewhere where the Mormons or any other religion can't get to it!

We all know how the Catholics are!

Lol



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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I don't get the mormon religion either. But when mormons and I spoke of religion, they thought it creepy that I participated in ritualistic canibalism by taking the blood and body of Christ every sunday.

Niether one of us ever understood baptists.

I don't understand buddism.

My college girlfriend was wiccan.

And I think druids are cool.

Religion. It's goofy crazy. Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants that when we died, the mormons turned out to be right!

edit on 19-8-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


Lol, I can see it now.....and the correct religion is...Mormon...thank you for playing, better luck next time! Lol

I was kinda rooting for Buddism, I would love to come back as a house cat!



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Regardless, the people who made a stink about Romney’s Mormonism are virtually silent these days. They would rather have a Mormon than a Marxist. As usually it will be the lessor of two evils.


I guess I am just kinda surprised people are not making more of an issue about it, you think the left would be trying to smear Mormons all over the place??



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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I guess I am just kinda surprised people are not making more of an issue about it, you think the left would be trying to smear Mormons all over the place??


I’m not saying it won’t be drug out at some point but it appears the left is focusing on making this about race and social inequalities (the usual). If they attack Romney’s religion it will hurt them IMO. They’re safer with the tried and true race baiting.



Remember – If you don’t vote for Obama you’re a racist and there will be many blacks taking to the streets.



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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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So you are voting based on policy.

I'm voting based on policy.

People who vote based on religion are no better than those who vote due to skin colour.

Who has the best direction for our country?

If you think it's Romney, vote for him.
If you think it's Obama, vote for him.

Everything else is just a distraction.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Some won't vote for him based on his religion alone. That is a given. Should that be what disqualifies him from serving as the President? No it shouldn't. A President should be elected on his policy and his character alone. In my opinion what we have seen of Romney's doesn't qualify him to be the man.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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My personal thoughts on this are pretty much this:

I'm willing to bet that there is significant overlap in the number of Christians who care about Romney being Mormon and think that Obama is a Muslim.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
My personal thoughts on this are pretty much this:

I'm willing to bet that there is significant overlap in the number of Christians who care about Romney being Mormon and think that Obama is a Muslim.


That's probably a really accurate statement!



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 10:50 PM
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My worries about a Mormon President is this: Mormons believe the leader of their church is a Living Prophet. As in, God speaks to him. As in, when the Prophet speaks, you better listen, and if you are a good Mormon and the prophet says push the button.... what do you do? That there is a higher authority than the Constitution or Oath of Office worries me! The Prophets tend to be old men and.... old men get a bit nutty now and then?



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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Yes, just one. Why do they get to go to a higher level in Heaven then you do?



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Barack Obama gay? My gaydar doesn't even blip when I see his picture. That's because when I first saw him he hit it so hard that it killed the batteries!!



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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I don't see why they couldn't. What he wont be accepted for, is where he stands on the issues....His politics...

Anyway, this last election, we brought in a black president and for a while there it was sort of looking like we were going to have woman on the democratic ticket...

I don't think him being Mormon will be much of an issue at all...




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