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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Jakes51
At this point, I am honestly wondering what Iran needs to do in reaching out and how they can expect to get out of things, either way. I'm honestly not kidding. Prior to Libya, I would have believed that a nation we say we have a serious problem with could solve the problem and end the problem.
However, in Libya and now in Syria, if clear options are offered at all, they don't last long when the willingness to cooperate is shown. Then it's just flat out Regime change and how best to go about it.....their deaths have already been decreed and decided within Western Governments.
You know, as recently as the confrontation with the Taliban and before U.S. forces entered Afghanistan, I still believed a nation could get themselves out of being destroyed...if they only did what was being asked.
So much has happened in the last several years though, ( and it's BOTH Presidents for those who can't think past that these days ) I'm just not sure anything Iran does will change the ultimate outcome of what seems to have been decided. The how and precisely when is all a big question ....but end result seems as clearly decided as Iraq, Libya and Syria. I hope I'm wrong on that..because Iran won't just roll over and say 'screw it'. We're in for a REAL fight this time.
Originally posted by woogleuk
I don't mean to offend you wrabbit, I am just sick to death of this matter, your thread is well presented don't get me wrong.
At this point I have only 3 words........ Hiroshima, Nagasaki, hypocrites.
Originally posted by Tauvington
Dude, ofcourse Iran has motive to get nukes. Think of it this way, if we didn't have nukes, and an Arab nation across the sea is trying to tell us what to do would we listen? First we went into Afghanistan, then Iraq. What is in the middle of those two countries? Iran. You can't tell me this wasn't planned from the beggining. Now we have two bases surounding Iran to do whatever our government has been planning. I think we should absolutely act pre-emptively. The last thing we need is an outspoken enemy of our allies, armed with nuclear weapons. After we get through with Iran the U.S. will basicly "control" most of the world. Just left with China and Russia. We will the U.S., all our allies, and 3 substantial footholds in the middle-east. It's clear to me that our government plans to rule the world. I'm just glad I'm on this side.
Originally posted by buster2010
We allow these people to have illegal nukes and do nothing to stop them but we want to go to war against a nation that isn't even trying to get nukes. Is America stupid or not.edit on 19-8-2012 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MrInquisitive
Why must other countries do what the US wants? Why must Iran listen to the US? Why doesn't the US have to abide by international law and by the UN? You seem to think that the US is the master of the world. What makes this so? You speak as an arrogant American (I am guessing your nationality). Why is it ok for the US to kill people all over the world on an industrial scale? Why doesn't the US follow its own laws, including the US Constitution?
I'm not defending the Assad or Khadafy regimes by any stretch. But compare their body count of deaths and torture to those of the US; I assure you the US will win hands down as the bloodthirstiest nation of the 21st century. The only other difference being that these other countries do it to their own people, whereas the US goes abroad to kill most of its victims.