Julian Assange speaking live NOW {VIDEO}, page 10

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"When an embassy is used in an action that is inconsistent with its status, the diplomatic status of that building can be challenged in court and be stripped if the judge finds in favor of the UK government. Entering the building once that happens is not an assault on a foreign embassy."

Did court find something? Has this court been established? Has that been changed to applicable?
Operating word is challenged. They already stormed the embassy without a court decision i guess?
So they are on hurry to get him why not wait until courts findings?

Originally posted by VertigoFlux
reply to post by Xcathdra

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"When an embassy is used in an action that is inconsistent with its status, the diplomatic status of that building can be challenged in court and be stripped if the judge finds in favor of the UK government. Entering the building once that happens is not an assault on a foreign embassy."

Did court find something? Has this court been established? Has that been changed to applicable?
Operating word is challenged. They already stormed the embassy without a court decision i guess?
So they are on hurry to get him why not wait until courts findings?

No-one has stormed the embassy and I think it is pretty clear the UK government has no intention of going down that road. Pity it was ever mentioned in my view.

But it is pretty galling to have a south american country interfering in a european judicial process and providing a hide-out for a fugitive. And then, to cap it all, provide a balcony so that said fugitive can make a public address.

If the situation needs to be terminated in the near future I would suggest we break off diplomatic relations with Ecuador. Ecuadorian and Brit diplomats all go home and Assange is left on his own in a former embassy in the middle of London.

reply to post by Alfie1

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Alfie1, you are misguided, are you out for his blood that badly?

Don't let propaganda of sex allegations fool you.

Originally posted by wujotvowujotvowujotvo
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Alfie1, you are misguided, are you out for his blood that badly?

Don't let propaganda of sex allegations fool you.

If the sex allegations are propaganda why has Assange twisted, turned, squirmed, every which way to avoid addressing them. Finally applying to exile himself in a poor south american country ?

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by wujotvowujotvowujotvo
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Alfie1, you are misguided, are you out for his blood that badly?

Don't let propaganda of sex allegations fool you.

If the sex allegations are propaganda why has Assange twisted, turned, squirmed, every which way to avoid addressing them. Finally applying to exile himself in a poor south american country ?

Why are you trying to bs. us? JA has co-operated with swedish authorities on every turn. They instead have ignored the letter of the law in an attempt to get him detained in sweden.

Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by wujotvowujotvowujotvo
reply to post by Alfie1

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Alfie1, you are misguided, are you out for his blood that badly?

Don't let propaganda of sex allegations fool you.

If the sex allegations are propaganda why has Assange twisted, turned, squirmed, every which way to avoid addressing them. Finally applying to exile himself in a poor south american country ?

Why are you trying to bs. us? JA has co-operated with swedish authorities on every turn. They instead have ignored the letter of the law in an attempt to get him detained in sweden.

Fact is that Assange has fought tooth and nail through every court in the UK to resist Sweden's arrest warrant. When he finally lost in the supreme court he did a runner to the embassy of a country with an embarassing record on human rights and press freedom but hey, any port in a storm. Some co-operation !

www.newstatesman.com...

There's a debate on this here: yougov.co.uk...

I find most people in are very misinformed about the nature of what's going on with Sweden.
Why is that?

ABC had very good press on this recently. Very informative.
However, it seems to me that a lot of people are getting their information from what they remember from Fox news over a year ago?

No seriously, what' s is going on here? Why do so many people think he has charges against him and that the charges are for forcing a woman to have sex with him?

The word rape is indeed VERY charged with specific meaning to most of us, isn't it?

reply to post by RealSpoke

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You need to read all the info in that case, specifically the Courts ruling and what it did.
Wiki - Pentagon Papers

Times v. United States is generally considered a victory for an extensive reading of the First Amendment, but as the Supreme Court ruled on whether the government had made a successful case for prior restraint, its decision did not void the Espionage Act or give the press unlimited freedom to publish classified documents. Ellsberg and Russo were not acquitted of violating the Espionage Act; they were freed due to a mistrial from irregularities in the government's case.[3]

Cornell University - New York Times vs. The United States

Other cases dealing with the governments legal ability to take entities to court over classified information -
1941 - Dennis vs. United States
Near v. Minnesota

Patterson vs. Colorado

Originally posted by ecoparity
"they" won't kill him, they'd rather make an example of him to put the fear into anyone else who would dare lift a curtain. That won't stop them from using the MSM to try and encourage someone else to take things into their own hands, however.

Worst case we all might finally get to see what's in the insurance file. I hope it's worth it.

An example?

On the off chance you don't know there are a lot of cases dealing with espionage and prosecution of individuals. Assange is not being made an example of, and as his followers are quick to point out, because no charges have been filed against him by the US.

If Assange goal was to expose corruption then I have a question for you. How does that stated goal work with these actions by Assange -

The hypocrisy demonstrated by Assange as well as Asange supporters is well documented.
Julian Assange Threatened To Sue Guardian For Publishing WikiLeaks Cables: Vanity Fair

The Man Who Spilled the Secrets

On the afternoon of November 1, 2010, Julian Assange, the Australian-born founder of WikiLeaks.org, marched with his lawyer into the London office of Alan Rusbridger, the editor of The Guardian. Assange was pallid and sweaty, his thin frame racked by a cough that had been plaguing him for weeks. He was also angry, and his message was simple: he would sue the newspaper if it went ahead and published stories based on the quarter of a million documents that he had handed over to The Guardian just three months earlier.

So he is all about releasing classified information because there should be no secrets, except when it comes to Assange and his megalomania.

Lets continue down this road and see where it leads -

In Rusbridger’s office, Assange’s position was rife with ironies. An unwavering advocate of full, unfettered disclosure of primary-source material, Assange was now seeking to keep highly sensitive information from reaching a broader audience.

Hmmm.. Something Assange preaches against on a daily basis again except when it comes to him, and then the standards change for his own benefit.

Lets keep going -

He had become the victim of his own methods: someone at WikiLeaks, where there was no shortage of disgruntled volunteers, had leaked the last big segment of the documents, and they ended up at The Guardian in such a way that the paper was released from its previous agreement with Assange—that The Guardian would publish its stories only when Assange gave his permission.

So Assange is preaching openess and disclosure, to hold be accountible, again except when it comes to himself. For assange to make the statements he did in his latest media encounter while at the same time he is breaking those very words he accuses others of doing.

The Guardian had the files leaked to them yet Assange makes demands....

Lets see just how out of touch Assange is -

Enraged that he had lost control, Assange unleashed his threat, arguing that he owned the information and had a financial interest in how and when it was released.

Now wait a minute.. Assange claims the information belongs to him and that he had a financial interest in them. The very position the US government used, that the documents belonged to them and Assange cannot publish them. A point Assange ignored because he has some higher moral authority and the laws dont apply to him.

Ironic...

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