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reply posted on 21-8-2012 @ 12:22 PM by crawdad1914
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by crawdad1914
Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to
post by ManOfHart



If you are or were a Christian and believed whole heartedly that the end is near, and that you have been ordered by God through Jesus..to go out and speak the truth and spread the word.

You would do so. if you had the love and compassion necessary to care that everyone is aware that time is short.

I can't understand everyone's constant beef with these people as they are nearly the only ones doing exactly what their bible say to do! Which would be no fun at all! there would be bad dogs and bad people to face. I have great respect for anyone who acts on their convictions so strongly.

They come to your door because they give a darn about whether you live through their last days or not. Why else would anyone do it!

Unlike the Mormans JW's do not own big business through the congregations, they only own printing facilities operated non profit. Most of the literature is given away free.

can't hurt to respect people can it.


You are either a Jehovahs Witness or you know very little about this group. I was raised a JW and spent half of my life indoctrinated into this cult. They do great damage to themselves and their family members. The group is not benign. True most are so blinded by the dictates of the Watchtower Bible and tract society, that they have no clue how much they hurt themselves and those whom they love and who love them, and it does seem courageous going door to door, but the picture you painted of them is not accurate. I respectfully suggest you do a search on these people in this forum and educate yourself. Sorry, if I seem harsh, thats not my intention. Peace.


NP we all have our opinions, I wholeheartedly believe I likely know more then you about them. I also know a lot about Catholics and many other religions. I totally respect people who actually read their own bible if they are going to try and sell their belief to someone else.

I asked a few questions of any Catholic I know, and they tell me they let their "Father' interpret the bible and NO they did not read it.

The bible does say to go to the people and bring them the word...such as Acts 20. I can't see what harm anyone does by offering something you can say no to. Again I ask why are Mormons left out of this discussion. They also admonish people to leave the unbelievers behind and they do collect wealth and own huge chains. They take your fee will to smoke and drink and many other non biblical demands.

I read the bible through the first time when I was 11. I read it through many times after and as many other ancient writings as I could find, searching for the roots of them all. JW's are one of the groups that follow closest to what I read there.

Their way of living in comparison to the general public is healthy, you may have issues from being raised in their group against your will but that does not make it harmful. You may have issues with certain people or your Family because of this group but that also does not make them harmful. You would have issues if you are gay, but they are not the only religion who rejects gay sex, not gay people. Compare to other religions, the largest reason I can see to single them out is because they are not as loose with their connection. They actually require something of the follower.


I completely stand by my statements. Being raised within this organization, as I was, and finding the courage to break all commandments as set forth by the WTBTS and actually research the history of this group from outside the filter system that they themselves have set up, gives a certain perspective that others would not have. So I do doubt you're assertion that you know more about this group than I or others who were raised in it would know.

You are correct, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But opinions based on an intimate understanding of the group from inside, and outside is paramount to have a full understanding of it. Are you a present member of this organization?

Again, many members and former members have posted information and personal experiences on this group in the past, people are free to search those threads out and form their own opinion.

To the original question, no I dont believe alphabet agencies of the fed have infiltrated the JWs


reply posted on 21-8-2012 @ 01:02 PM by Char-Lee
reply to post by crawdad1914



Not a member of any organized religion, do have many friends and family who were raised or now are Morman and JW's and Catholics and Baptist and....


reply posted on 21-8-2012 @ 01:07 PM by sonnny1
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to
post by ManOfHart



I like to let Jehovah's into my house and slowly redirect the conversation to something that I enjoy, like Star Wars or porn.

They almost never catch on.






Thats because they enjoy Star Wars and porn also !!!

I know MANY heathen Witnesses, some that would make you blush.


BTW, that was too funny......





reply posted on 21-8-2012 @ 02:17 PM by taccj9903
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to
post by taccj9903



One time they came to one of my old jobs looking for me. I could have been fired.

I know it was them because they left propaganda.

These people need to wake up and realize that what they are doing is HARASSMENT. They're not spreading the good word but they'll get spread over something if they don't stop it.


Most of the JWs that I personally knew were honest, good people. But just like any other religion there are always the bad apples. It's unfortunate that you were subjected to that kind of harassment, and I am not going to try to defend any of them or their actions just know that they aren't all like what you experienced.


reply posted on 30-8-2012 @ 09:54 AM by SmikeS
I love the JW's, I love all, Ive been fighting this religious mid-life crisis for the past six months, stopped eating meat, stopped eating three meals per day, I eat berries,nuts,, drinking water and chamomile tea, sometimes with a little suger. You would think, that I would be calm without all of the chemicals in my body, but im not calm at all , I am intense and my mind races constantly.

The JW's pulled up to the house in a gold 2003ish Chevy Sub, I was working in my garden, tending the sunflowers, admiring the insects. They got out of the truck with their bibles in hand, I glanced up and noticed this, and thought Awesome! time to discuss scripture.So I ran in the house and grabbed an ESV(leather bound )that I received from a friend five years ago, ran back out to the porch. I was glad to see them walk on the pavement rather than my precious fescue.
They met me at the porch steps, I sat on the steps and rolled some tobacco, I asked if they minded me partaking in a smoke, Charlie the elder JW said he did not mind, I smiled and mentioned that Jehovah loves the smell of smoke, Charlie said, yes Jehovah enjoys some smoke,but only certain smoke, and gave me a piercing stare that penetrated my pupils making its way to the core of my soul.
They asked if I believed in Jesus Christ, Charlie was very intense at this point placing his hand upon my shoulder and said I LOVE YOU, Do you understand me when I say" I LOVE YOU" so I said, Very truly() I love you sir, and I believe Jesus is the son of God

Charlie asked if I attend church, and asked if I would like to go to church with them. I said that i would love to attend with you but I have to escort my Grandmother(86yr) to her Methodist Church. Charlie agreed.

I asked them what the difference is in my ESV and their JWV, Charlie showed me that the Creator in his book was named Jehovah, and that my book was incorrect because the name of the creator was not correct. I thought wow! all this time Ive been worshiping the wrong creator, no wonder my prayers go unanswered.

Charlie was in his late 60s he was "showing the ropes" to a new Husband&Wife team of JW's It was very hot on the porch, sweet beads were forming on the young ladies forehead. Charlie mentioned that they should be going
and said that he enjoyed talking with me, and hopes to see me at their services.

That was the first time they stopped by my house. As soon as they left I started researching the names of our Creator.
They have been by four times since then, One day they came during one of my paranoid moments
I did not open my door that time.
Ive been using ATS for religious study/research for the past few months, this weekend an ATS-member noted that Acts 8:37 has been removed from almost half of our translations. I was really shocked to see the scripture jump from 36 to 38, completely removed 37.

Charlie came by to visit on Monday, He did not stay for long because of the HEAT I'm always outside in the yard, but, I mentioned that Acts 8:37 had been removed from his Bible, I asked him, WHY? Charlie did not know and seemed just as confused about this issue as myself.

He will be back next week with an answer, I hope. I'm not a JW, I admire them tremendously, and feel terrible for not opening my door to them a few weeks ago



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reply posted on 30-8-2012 @ 10:05 AM by flyswatter
Originally posted by SmikeS
I love the JW's, I love all, Ive been fighting this religious mid-life crisis for the past six months, stopped eating meat, stopped eating three meals per day, I eat berries,nuts,, drinking water and chamomile tea, sometimes with a little suger. You would think, that I would be calm without all of the chemicals in my body, but im not calm at all , I am intense and my mind races constantly.

The JW's pulled up to the house in a gold 2003ish Chevy Sub, I was working in my garden, tending the sunflowers, admiring the insects. They got out of the truck with their bibles in hand, I glanced up and noticed this, and thought Awesome! time to discuss scripture.So I ran in the house and grabbed an ESV(leather bound )that I received from a friend five years ago, ran back out to the porch. I was glad to see them walk on the pavement rather than my precious fescue.
They met me at the porch steps, I sat on the steps and rolled some tobacco, I asked if they minded me partaking in a smoke, Charlie the elder JW said he did not mind, I smiled and mentioned that Jehovah loves the smell of smoke, Charlie said, yes Jehovah enjoys some smoke,but only certain smoke, and gave me a piercing stare that penetrated my pupils making its way to the core of my soul.
They asked if I believed in Jesus Christ, Charlie was very intense at this point placing his hand upon my shoulder and said I LOVE YOU, Do you understand me when I say" I LOVE YOU" so I said, Very truly() I love you sir, and I believe Jesus is the son of God

Charlie asked if I attend church, and asked if I would like to go to church with them. I said that i would love to attend with you but I have to escort my Grandmother(86yr) to her Methodist Church. Charlie agreed.

I asked them what the difference is in my ESV and their JWV, Charlie showed me that the Creator in his book was named Jehovah, and that my book was incorrect because the name of the creator was not correct. I thought wow! all this time Ive been worshiping the wrong creator, no wonder my prayers go unanswered.

Charlie was in his late 60s he was "showing the ropes" to a new Husband&Wife team of JW's It was very hot on the porch, sweet beads were forming on the young ladies forehead. Charlie mentioned that they should be going
and said that he enjoyed talking with me, and hopes to see me at their services.

That was the first time they stopped by my house. As soon as they left I started researching the names of our Creator.
They have been by four times since then, One day they came during one of my paranoid moments
I did not open my door that time.
Ive been using ATS for religious study/research for the past few months, this weekend an ATS-member noted that Acts 8:37 has been removed from almost half of our translations. I was really shocked to see the scripture jump from 36 to 38, completely removed 37.

Charlie came by to visit on Monday, He did not stay for long because of the HEAT I'm always outside in the yard, but, I mentioned that Acts 8:37 had been removed from his Bible, I asked him, WHY? Charlie did not know and seemed just as confused about this issue as myself.

He will be back next week with an answer, I hope. I'm not a JW, I admire them tremendously, and feel terrible for not opening my door to them a few weeks ago



edit on 30-8-2012 by SmikeS because: help


Witnesses do not attend church. They attend meetings, and those meetings take place at Kingdom Halls. A Witness elder would never ask someone if they would like to attend church.


reply posted on 30-8-2012 @ 10:59 AM by Sparky63
reply to post by GuidedKill



If a guy came to door naked, I would just assume he was a homosexual who desperately wanted attention. They probably still laugh their asses off when they recall this. How come it's never a hot chick who decides to come to the door naked?


reply posted on 30-8-2012 @ 11:06 AM by GuidedKill
Originally posted by Sparky63
reply to
post by GuidedKill



If a guy came to door naked, I would just assume he was a homosexual who desperately wanted attention. They probably still laugh their asses off when they recall this. How come it's never a hot chick who decides to come to the door naked?


That would be your repressed homosexuality thoughts creeping in. You notice I never mentioned the sex of the two Jahovah's Wintesses. I would imagine every naked man conjures up that idea in your head. You know their are professionals that can help with that. I myself am completely comfortable in my sexuality and seeing a naked male doesn't automatically invoke homosexual thoughts......

good luck with that thing you got going on.......
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reply posted on 4-9-2012 @ 03:51 AM by wigit
reply to post by ManOfHart



"fisherman of souls" = That's brilliant. And not all are jehovah's.

Watch out for the fishermen, they come in all shapes and sizes.


reply posted on 4-9-2012 @ 03:55 PM by wigit
reply to post by ladyteeny



Your son can't sort things out? Surely he sees his daughter?

Whatever the case, I hope it's sorted and you can reunite with your grand-daughter.


reply posted on 5-9-2012 @ 03:48 AM by ladyteeny
Originally posted by wigit
reply to
post by ladyteeny



Your son can't sort things out? Surely he sees his daughter?

Whatever the case, I hope it's sorted and you can reunite with your grand-daughter.


nope, when the little one was 1 year old, my son wasn't the most reliable of people (at age 19) so JWmother decided he wasn't desired in her life. a few years later he's grown up significantly, and wants to take responsibility for her, so he's currently trying to get access to his daughter through the courts as his daughters mother won't let him see her.
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