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Originally posted by meticulous
Because it is still a form of TAX on the people.
So you just admitted that the TAX system is NOT for rich people.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
The point was that the government has full control of all the money put into that system. The Rich do not contribute anything over 110k and get to keep the government from controlling that extra untaxed money.
So why was it fair that they get to opt out of the system at $110,100?
Originally posted by wildtimes
Ahem. Here I thought we were having a friendly discussion.
Of course skills matter. I am over 50 years old, with an advanced degree in the Behavioral and Mental Health, am bilingual Spanish/English, know how to design/sew clothing, am an excellent cook, a gardener, was a child-care provider for many years, do minor to medium home DIY stuff, know quite a lot about basic construction and maintenance, and some other skills...
I live in a mixed working-class neighborhood, an 73-year old home, drove an old Honda (until it recently died), walk whenever I can, rarely eat out or go to the movies, NEVER go out clubbing or "shopping", and buy clothes second hand. My furniture is all second-hand or flea market stuff -- I choose to live this way rather than keeping up with the Joneses in the beige suburbs...
that said, my home is comfortable, and we get by. My husband saves as much as he can. I stayed at home with my two kids until they were school age, never put them in day-care (had a home child care business myself for those years)...
The people who are working 80 hours are the 20s and 30s who are in middle management, on salaries, and expected to be on-call and stay late....so they can get ahead.
I'd take a $10/hour stocking job. But no one will even give me an interview -- I'm too old, and overqualified. It sucks.
Originally posted by TheCoolKids
reply to post by Hefficide
Why not start taxing the 47% not paying income tax and ending the waste of the welfare system?
The tax cuts are only temporary because George Voinovich inserted the language as a poison pill back in 2001.
They should have always been permanent as Bush campaigned on.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Taxes are all crazy when you try an apply any logic to it....
Another problem is that it is hard for many to up and move to a job...that can be tough to do...and counseling/teaching are not good careers to be in right now...10 years ago I would have said they were some of the best...go figure
I'm sorry for your troubles...I really wish things would get better and pull people like you out of the hole that you are in...