Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia

I think that you are referring to "Illuminati", but point taken.

Well I would say both NWO and Illuminati then No need to expand you got what I meant.

Again... Do rhetorical questions require evidence?

Oh is that what that was?

So the question of it being a NWO agenda was supposed to trigger a light bulb eh?

Well then... it didn't, and if you would be so kind.... I will ask again. Can you show the evidence for me? I was not sharp enough for the rhetorical question to do its work all on its own.

But my question presupposed that sexual orientation is pliable, given some advanced knowledge of human psychology that we are not privy to.....

Predicated on the idea sexual orientation is primarily psychological to begin with.

The overwhelming majority of heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual people say it's not.

So if it were primarily psychological it would stand to reason to be based in the subconscious and therefore since not cognitive it's not a choice.

So sure hypothetically the NWO is on a grand scale infiltrating our society with the means to adjust our children's subconscious to turn them gay.

Let's pretend that's true. Why?

Truth is often stranger than fiction. Today it's sex ed. Tomorrow it's a Jr option class called "becoming a homo 101" where they practice and learn about their gay rights.

Originally posted by r2d246
Truth is often stranger than fiction. Today it's sex ed. Tomorrow it's a Jr option class called "becoming a homo 101" where they practice and learn about their gay rights.

edit on 20-8-2012 by r2d246 because: (no reason given)

I hate to disappoint you but there is no gay agenda. Be more concerned about the Jehovah Witnesses and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that leave pamphlets in your door. THERE IS NO GAY AGENDA.

Just caught up on the last few pages of this thread......lol...some interesting debate from all concerned....I can only add that as a mom of a 21 yr old daughter, I have wittnessed things change drastically in the last 20 years it makes my head spin......I don't know if things are more open and free, or more vulgar and oppressive when it comes to sexuality....and with all sincerity, my rational mind, and my emotional heart struggle with this.....I do think there is an "agenda" to destroy families...and I guess what I would define as morality....the issue of "hormones" in our food and water is not an issue to take lightly.......anyways....God Bless any type of family that loves and protects children.........I think most people would agree that our kids should be chasing butterflies, not having complex sexual issues thrust at them through the media.....

HEY fellow ATS people . It happens a lot than can even possibly imagine but there are many so called "straight" people out there but there is nothing straight about them. Even if they are straight married believe me they are not str8 they may or may do things people of the same sex. What I thought was shocking but not really when I first heard it was that politicians as well as terrorist do drugs but then again not.
ULTIMATELY OUR PLACE here in this LIFE as smyleegrl says is to simply have respect for everyone whether you think you know them or not because you never know who that person actually is or what they me become.
As funny/coincidental, not really, it may sound as you read this but truth is the tremors are real & are being felt by Everybody in so many ways some do not feel them but think of them. The planet is shaking & changing in a way that only one can even imagine!

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia

Were you going to answer that one? or just continue to look for ways to attack me for even asking it?

Oh you felt I avoided questions first? Fair enough. Does this mean if I answer the rhetorical questions you specifically made clear required no answer! then you will finally answer all of mine?? Okay cool........

What if it is a NWO agenda to turn people gay?

If it was really a New World Order agenda to turn people gay I would absolutely be against it.

I have no issue with any sexual orientation. I have no wish to rid the world of heterosexuality. I support equal rights for all orientations and want all of them to continue to exist. I constantly make fun of the ridiculous absurd claims that homosexuality will result in the end of procreation, BUT if the NWO was turning EVERYONE gay then obviously that would become a hypothetical concern. I say hypothetical because with our technology and my faith in humanity I have NO doubt all those gay people wouldn't let it come to that! I can name many other reasons I would oppose it. There is no gay agenda outside of equality dude.

And like.... the homosexuals aren't even aware of it?

What does that even mean?? How would they not be aware but heterosexuals would be? All sexual orientations work within the echelon of social hierarchy.

Anyways I just met your conditions. Which means if you're not playing games you will answer your unanswered questions.

Originally posted by MountainLaurel
Yes, I agree...the reference in the specific movie she shared was pretty lighthearted, a twist the boy was gay, just odd in a kids movie I think.

I see no reason to think had it been a heterosexual couple it would have been more lighthearted.

It wasn't sexual. It was merely the mentioning of, if the children understood it, sexual orientation. That's implied in practically every kids movie. Little Mermaid? Hell yeah. Heterosexual romantic relationships with implied sexuality!! My God! :p For real though... how many kids movies don't express some level of heterosexual romantic involvement?? So in all honestly is it the sexual undertones that kids might perceive or the homosexual ones?

I have definately made the leap to a more sinister agenda...

Agenda from who and more importantly for what exactly?

I have given some examples...the "Family Guy" cartoon for one.....what do you think of this cartoon, have you ever seen it?

I love it. I think it's hilarious. I have a flexible sense of humor.

If parents don't want their kids to watch it turn it off/don't let them watch it. Personally I agree with a few of the posters that have said if they understand the adult humor in it then that means they were either ready for it or already knew about it.

That said My Little Ponies Friendship is Magic is a great kids show, switch to that channel

Mostly I guess I am in favor of loving, thoughtful, romantic, mind blowing, soul melting sexuality.....lmao...yeah, yeah, I know.....silly.......corny....

I think that sounds amazingly fantastic and you might of just made me a hopeless romantic again And also made me feel more lonely

just think it sucks that sex is a commodity...and it totally bothers me when it's marketed to kids

In the OP example it wasn't it seems. In Family Guy sex is in the show...

Not sure where I stand honestly. I am very "liberal", I would have to explore this through discussion.

Anyways, I'm wierd I guess, intellectually I "get it" but at the core of my being something feels very wrong......

Can you sum up your thoughts and feelings concisely what you feel is wrong? I think I get a part of it but not the whole of it.

Originally posted by mAnnee

Originally posted by chr0naut

As I previously stated, I was, at one stage aggressively pursued by a homosexual, who would not take no for an answer.

I'm a woman. LOL

It really cracks me up when a man is put in this position.

I had to extremely strenuously reject their constant physical advances and threaten them with the law to stop them. I eventually chose to quit my employment to escape from their sexual harassment. This cost me in both personal and financial terms.

Repeat. I'm a woman. LOL

It really cracks me up when a man is put in this position.

The person in question had previously been married with children but had chosen to make a mid-life change.

NO - - he did not choose to make a mid-life change. He chose to accept and recognize his birth right.

Something he would never had to do if self-righteous society - - - hadn't forced him into living a lie.

edit on 19-8-2012 by mAnnee because: DAMN QUOTES!

So, you show your absence of gender bias by laughing at the victim of sexual harassment?

Well you made you point quite clear, didn't you.