I'm done with Fantasy Football (and sports conspiracy), page 1


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Topic started on 17-8-2012 @ 12:10 AM by DaTroof
Flashback: 1996

Fantasy Football, a relatively unheard of concept at the time, was gaining popularity among sports geeks who spent all day watching ESPN and espn2 (remember the deuce?) and listening to whatever local/national sports radio shows one was lucky enough to catch.

I, being among those geeks took naturally to the stat-based competitive ultra-fandom necessary for success. The NFL was different then. You didn't see many players miss a significant number of snaps unless they were "seeing stars" or obviously injured otherwise.

On top of the "toughness" that players of that era displayed, less teams used the now famous "running back by committee", so if a star went down, there were usually viable options up and down NFL rosters. Starters had staying power. Guys like Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders were awesome, but Terry Allen, Terrell Davis and Ricky Watters were the guys who won you your league. It benefited the geek who went out and purchased stat guides and paid enough attention to schedules to anticipate hot seasons.

Enter 2002 or what I call the Priest Holmes/LaDainian Tomlinson Era. Fantasy Football had hit the mainstream, and the increase in internet access opened up a whole slew of new owners. Gone were the days of Barry, Emmitt and company, but the talent level around the league certainly did not take a hit. The NFL knew its biggest offensive stars were the darling QBs and diva WRs of this era, so several rule changes were made to increase safety and reduce injuries. The NFL is a business, first and foremost. When injury risks are a real threat, it is imperative for a team who desires success to have capable backups. The more capable and/or tenured (The players are also part of a Union) the more expensive the contract.

The game was going through an evolution, and fantasy owners needed to adjust if they were to succeed. As impressive as Holmes and Tomlinson were, the WR crop was chock full of stars, and more attention was being paid to the passing game than ever before. In the meantime, companies like Yahoo! and ESPN were cashing in on the fantasy football madness. Easy access to team organization and stat spreadsheets almost makes it a waste of time to try and do everything manually without a league manager site.

The NFL and Las Vegas bookies have had a strange relationship in the past. No major sport is as open about the gambling involved as the NFL is. Even broadcast announcers and/or radio announcers will mention the point spread in close games. Super Bowls in particular draw lots of wagers, even from people who haven't paid attention all year. Football = gambling. Fantasy football is gambling on gambling. It's the next step of gambling, where chaos benefits the house, and hurts the once proud geek. Just as a good swindle should.

Enter today's NFL with even more rule changes and safety measures, and yet... more players are missing significant periods of time due to injury or post-concussion symptoms. I'm not bloodthirsty. I don't want anyone to get hurt playing sports. But, I feel like all this prissy "safe" football is another evolution in the game. This time though, I refuse to adjust. I will no longer be crossing my fingers over a waiver claim for the only remaining starting RB once injuries take their toll. Oh, that's another thing. All the fantasy websites will have a feature article on a breakout player who isn't owned in many leagues. What the hell? That's MY job to research who is performing well and/or earning a job. That's my reward for being a fan of the sport and buying the Sunday Ticket package. Now, every website has so-and-so's huge picture on the main page for Pete's sake! He's not a sleeper if there's a section called Sleeper Pickups - Who To Add I refuse to stress myself out all week about a play that could have been ruled a touchdown but wasn't. I refuse to root for a kicker on Monday Night. I refuse to deal with sore winners talking trash all week asking me why I didn't start a certain player, or accept a ridiculous trade proposal. 15 years, 4 trophies, 3 2nd place finishes. That's good enough for me.

Maybe I'm just bitter that my geeky obsession for sports statistics is no longer an advantage in an avenue for gambling. Maybe I just know when to fold 'em. To those of you playing this year, may you dodge the injury bug and play the waiver wire well. Me? I'll just go back to appreciating the sport and the effort of ALL players, instead of hating most of them, including my roster.

-- Peace


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 12:50 AM by sligtlyskeptical
reply to post by DaTroof



I think after the season rolls around again you will be looking for a league to join. There are alternate formats you could look into. One is called 3 and out. You need to pick a WR, QB, RB each week an dthey need to score above average points for their position or you lose that position for the rest of the year. Last one with a player left wins. or you could just join a free yhaoo league. Emotions don't run as high for free.


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 12:58 AM by DaTroof
reply to post by sligtlyskeptical




Thanks for suggesting that 3-and-out format. Sounds interesting. Sadly though, this is not the season to try it. Maybe in a few more years if the game returns to its glory. Honestly though, I think in about 5-10 years it will become flag football. Too many brain injuries and health concerns with former players. I'm just glad I got to see the great moments of the 80s and on.



reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 01:22 AM by Komodo
reply to post by DaTroof



Flagged & Stared .. here's why ...

my opinion ..

Coming from a big family, a brother and 2 half brothers and 3 sisters, football season was EVERYTHING.. at the age of 10 yrs old, I loved every minute of it...when the excitement was those teams playing in the north on the snow, mud and rain.....THAT was football~!

never got into contact sports much but football was my favorite because it allowed players to play like the sport was designed to play; keep the rules simple, don't trash the QB, for obvious reasons, no false starts, ect, the old rules, before 1995ish"

I think I quite watching after 98', seen to many blatant bad calls and nothing to take it back even after the review on slow mo.. and the announcers stating even .."well.......i guess they're gonna let it stay ...." (with an awkward silence of 10secs.. ) then 2 weeks later, reading the news that a ref got fined for taking bribes...........

that was pretty much it for me.. the last defense for a great game has been compromised....all for $$$$$$ .....

ETA: and RARELY saw injuries that put players on a 6 week leave or no season.. which is odd given that the equipment is better than it ever was before..

edit on 17-8-2012 by Komodo because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 10:28 PM by SepticSheepHerder
Originally posted by Komodo
reply to
post by DaTroof



Flagged & Stared .. here's why ...

my opinion ..

Coming from a big family, a brother and 2 half brothers and 3 sisters, football season was EVERYTHING.. at the age of 10 yrs old, I loved every minute of it...when the excitement was those teams playing in the north on the snow, mud and rain.....THAT was football~!

never got into contact sports much but football was my favorite because it allowed players to play like the sport was designed to play; keep the rules simple, don't trash the QB, for obvious reasons, no false starts, ect, the old rules, before 1995ish"

I think I quite watching after 98', seen to many blatant bad calls and nothing to take it back even after the review on slow mo.. and the announcers stating even .."well.......i guess they're gonna let it stay ...." (with an awkward silence of 10secs.. ) then 2 weeks later, reading the news that a ref got fined for taking bribes...........

that was pretty much it for me.. the last defense for a great game has been compromised....all for $$$$$$ .....

ETA: and RARELY saw injuries that put players on a 6 week leave or no season.. which is odd given that the equipment is better than it ever was before..

edit on 17-8-2012 by Komodo because: (no reason given)


When the referees cost a team the game, that's what really gets on my nerves. I've seen my team robbed of too many games because of bad referee calls. Do these referees ever recieve punishment? Not that i've seen. I believe a lot of them are bribed. Sometimes it's blatanly obvious.


reply posted on 5-11-2012 @ 03:11 AM by touchdowntrojans
reply to post by DaTroof



I for the life of me cannot understand why people spend their time watching footbal on tv. I did go to the USC Trojans vs Oregan Ducks game on Saturday. It was one of the best games I have every seen. Live collge football is marvelous. But tv, fantsy football, gambling, I am lost. Don't get it. Would rather be out in the sun.
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