MY little Pony...Innocent show? Or left wing conspiracy to feminize men?

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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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I think its disturbing for any grown individual to have a obsession for children's toys. A grown adult who is obsessive about tickle me elmo or my little pony are about the same to me. I simply don't get it.

I know a person back when I was in college that stayed in the same dorms as me. She was a grown woman. SHe had no mental incapacities. ANd yet she would drag this elmo doll everywhere with her. Sometimes she would even talk like elmo.

One day asa cruel joke someone hid her elmo doll. She literally went walking down the hall sobbing for hours begging people to give her back her elmo doll. Eventually she found it, and she was OK. Now normally Id say that it was cruel to do what they had done to her. But keep it in perspective. this is a grown adult crying over an elmo doll. I just don't get it. I can understand the psychological anchoring of toys from our childhood acting like security blankets for a grown adult, but still.

As far as Rainbow bright and my little pony turning guys feminine. I'm willing to bet the guys watching that show were born a little feminine to begin with, nothing wrong with that, but I don't think the siren song of my little pony is enough to "convert" guys into little sissy boys.




posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I think its disturbing for any grown individual to have a obsession for children's toys. A grown adult who is obsessive about tickle me elmo or my little pony are about the same to me. I simply don't get it.

I know a person back when I was in college that stayed in the same dorms as me. She was a grown woman. SHe had no mental incapacities. ANd yet she would drag this elmo doll everywhere with her. Sometimes she would even talk like elmo.

One day asa cruel joke someone hid her elmo doll. She literally went walking down the hall sobbing for hours begging people to give her back her elmo doll. Eventually she found it, and she was OK. Now normally Id say that it was cruel to do what they had done to her. But keep it in perspective. this is a grown adult crying over an elmo doll. I just don't get it. I can understand the psychological anchoring of toys from our childhood acting like security blankets for a grown adult, but still.

As far as Rainbow bright and my little pony turning guys feminine. I'm willing to bet the guys watching that show were born a little feminine to begin with, nothing wrong with that, but I don't think the siren song of my little pony is enough to "convert" guys into little sissy boys.


When I was child in the 1970s, kids used to run around the playground pretending to be Spitfires or pretending to go 'ack ack ack' with make-believe machine guns. I'm not really convinced that there's any real difference between that and people playing an online console war game and speaking to people 'in game' and issuing orders to each other for 'back up' or whatever. I know people who, outside of work, play console games every waking moment. They're really dependent on them; obsessive even.

I'm not really sure that grown men playing at soldiers is any better than a girl being overly attached to a soft toy.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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The internet never ceases to surprise me.
I have never heard of bronies or anything related to the new my little pony cartoon, but after a few quick google searches I've come to some conclusions.
First, anthropomorphic sex fantasies have been around long before my little pony, so the whole "rule34 twilight sparkle" thing isn't too surprising.
second, anime fans seem to connect to characters they can identify with for whatever reason, so I don't see much difference between presenting the character as a cartoon girl and a cartoon pony girl.

As for the agenda to feminize men, I'm sure that is the goal of some, but the influx of feminizing hormones in the water supply has done far more than any cartoon. I consider it accidental/unintended, but some will blame TPTB or the jews.

As for the people who claim that women welcome the feminization of men, I disagree. Mainly because females will have sex with the alpha male, super confident douchebag over a skinny, feminized nerd. They might be friends with the nerd, but sexual preference usually hinges on guarantee of procreation/viability of offspring. (big breasts, wide hips>small breasts, small stature)(Muscles, job>skinny, broke)

Women are complicated and will often claim to want a sensitive guy, but that's just because they, too, don't know what women want.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Playing The Ponies

Oh my. I hope no one takes it the wrong way, but this thread has had me laughing my ass off.


For my fellow pony fans, I feel your pain. And for my fellow ATSers who don't know what to make of all this, are creeped out or otherwise utterly bamboozled by this whole adult men liking My Little Pony business, I really feel your pain.


Before I actually watched the show, I would have had precisely the same reactions, and found myself fumbling for explanations. Perhaps too much PVC piping and estrogen in the water supply? Women's Liberation making a sudden breakthrough? MK-ULTRA Populace Pacification Program?

The last thing I would have guessed is that it's simply a really good show. Personally, I think it's one of the best cartoons since the Golden Age of American Animation. It reminds me most of the Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies shorts featuring Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd and the like -- and the show is full of references to those and other classics.

AND it's also a cartoon designed to market some of the pinkest, fluffiest, girliest merchandise known to humankind: pastel-colored pony dolls with brushable manes. My Little Pony.

Beware! The cognitive dissonance of these extremes may cause permanent, irreversible insanity.


Anyway, I suppose I shouldn't regurgitate the entirety of my incomprehensibly long post on the subject. There's probably something in the Geneva Conventions against that.

I will say, however, that for anyone truly puzzled and/or alarmed by the "Brony" phenomenon, a little investigation should show that it's really not all that mysterious. Yes, it's "weird" in the sense that (as far as I know) it's unprecedented in history. And even people who take a closer look may feel just as confused as ever.

But to say "I don't get it" and not even try to "get it", well, I think we all know that that amounts to.

As with a book with a strange cover, opening it and looking inside can often reveal something much different than expected. That was certainly the case when a friend recommended I watch Friendship is Magic over a year and a half ago -- and had to do more than a little arm-twisting to get me to finally watch it (believe me). Rest assured, prior to that, "My Little Pony" was about as far off my radar as could possibly be imagined.

Last year, after watching the show and realizing the sociopsychological conundrum it represents, I adopted our little ponies as my ATS mascots and avatar theme because I consider the show to be something that can symbolize the meaning of our site motto.

Just as with us "conspiracy wackos", which most "mainstream" people will assume we are simply because we post here, there is really much more to the "pony" story than would seem at a casual glace.

Us "conspiracy wackos" are labeled that because we dare question the assumptions that underly "normal" society. We dare to be different, to defy orthodoxy and the blinders of conformity.

So it is with pony fans. Every male fan of the show knows damn well what sort of reaction to expect from society. This thread is rather tame compared to most discussions of its kind on the Internet (and if I can be forgiven for bragging, reflects the quality of our membership versus the dismal intellectual state of the Internet at large). But it covers a lot of the same ground that we fans of the show know all too well.

It's easy enough to dismiss it all as nonsense without actually knowing what is being dismissed. But those who choose to question their own prejudices often find the results rewarding.

I won't presume to say what that would mean for anyone other than myself, but I will say that had I allowed my own prejudices to push me away, I would have missed out on a great cartoon series. One of the best I've seen, and I've seen quite a few.

YMMV, of course, but just as all ATSers aren't crazy, neither are all us pony fans.

Just some of us. Try to guess which ones.






P.S. For anyone who may wonder, I don't buy or play with pony dolls, don't care for the previous shows and movies associated with the franchise, don't have an unhealthy interest in little girls and don't dress up like a pony. I just really like Friendship is Magic, that's why I watch it, and I'm not at all ashamed of that.

And, as I always have, I still go hiking, camping, jeeping, dirt bike riding, shooting and enjoy other "manly" activities just fine, thank you, and still rate movies based on how many explosions they have (the more, the better). Watching a pony cartoon won't change that.

Real men don't have to prove they're real men.



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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
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*gives you a great big vitural hug*

The movie was probably the biggest hollywood let down ever, but that is off topic and for another thread. XD


Seriously though, nothing wrong with a guy to cry when it is called for. We nicknamed my FIL the rock, he didn't even cry when his son died. There is just something disturbign about that.

His father was a submarine captain.



HIm and his brother are so dysfunctional it isn't even funny.

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I have not seen the movie ,but if it sucks i will not watch it. Wow. he did not cry when his son died? Mayby he did it in private since its un masculine to cry let alone in a crowd. Never realized it until recently that i may be emotionally stunted because my Fathers insistence that only sissies cried when they got hurt or felt pain. I broke my foot one time. He said to walk it off you wimp.

My father and his brother relationship is messed up bad too.

I have a link for A guy who REALLY REALLLLLLLY hates Bronies. You will find it funny though.

www.youtube.com...

i HOPE this guy is playing it up but...ill let you decide. OH and thanks for the hugg.^_^



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Im sorry but i think all the people saying this is a problem or they know someone with this problem are the ones who like to watch little girl shows. Its really creepy but i myself don't know anyone who watches that show at my age of 21. It's like how grown men watch anime it is weird and immature but big deal it doesn't hurt anyone one at the end of the day.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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For what reason?



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by yuppa

I have a link for A guy who REALLY REALLLLLLLY hates Bronies. You will find it funny though.

www.youtube.com...

i HOPE this guy is playing it up but...ill let you decide. OH and thanks for the hugg.^_^


Thanks for posting that.

I listened to the whole thing and I got the impression that he is a really angry fat guy. I wasn't totally sure, even through all the heavy breathing, until 8:40-9:00 when he finally gets a drink. The "mmm-ughhh" sound he makes is hilarious.
I think he is getting excessively mad because he is just in a room yelling into a mic.

Looks like i'll have to give this my little pony show a watch to see what the fuss is about.

I wonder what the general hetero/homo/bi ratio is among the male "brony" audience.
I could see gay people sort of co-opting the my little pony images/fad.
Not saying only gays are interested in this, but I can see why they would be.

Edit: this random person gives a pretty good explanation to the bony thing
www.fimfiction.net...
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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I used to watch that show with my sister, who was obsessed with ponies - in like 1983 or whatever.

What's scary is I have a bunch of vintage MLP toys that made it into the "bin of toys that we could never part with".

Any bronies want to buy them?

They are cute, but jeez guys c'mon.

I can get animu, but the bronie thing has got to go.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Tom and jerry or roadrunnner vs coyote...maybe even some cat dog



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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I remember seeing everyone talking about how the show was so great. At first I thought it seemed really stupid, but then I watched an episode just out of curiosity to see what everyone was going on about. I actually liked it. I watched every available episode. The animation looks awesome on my monitor in 1080p, and while the storylines are obviously meant for a younger audience, there are sometimes little things here and there that only adults would get. It's also easy to like the characters. It's just an all-around cute show I guess. Now, I'm definitely not one of those "bronies"; but I did watch the show, and I did enjoy it.

I guess when it comes down to it, MLP is a tv show that makes it ok to be a kid again for a little bit.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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So are you saying it is not ok for boys to play with dolls?




posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Dont know about political. Heres a good, well a mean bad one, my 5 year old loves My Little Pony, so i downloaded all the episodes/seasons from TPB. So theres a torrent there with the title MyLittlePonyPorn and me being me, curiosity got the better of me. OMG there are some mad sick whack jobs in this verse, trust me dont DL its basically what it says on the tin! Takes quite a bit to shock me, this did! I even reported it to TPB for all the good that will do. I dont beleve in censorship, but somethings just should not exist!
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I think its disturbing for any grown individual to have a obsession for children's toys. ... I simply don't get it.


What's the real difference between children's toys and adults' toys? I have known grown men who would throw a complete tantrum and cry like a baby because someone scratched his toy (be it his car, his motorcycle or his audio equipment). The obsession is the same.

"The difference between men and boys is the price of the toys... "

Sure, for the most part, we outgrow the toy, but not the obsession. We just get newer, shinier and more expensive toys. What's the problem if a woman still has a collection of Barbies? Or a man still displays his Hot Wheels collection? That child that we used to be still lives within us. Our memories of childhood are our connection to innocence. I've seen Beanie Babies and Cabbage Patch Kids fly off the shelves - for adults. I still love the smell of a new baby doll more than anything.



I can understand the psychological anchoring of toys from our childhood acting like security blankets for a grown adult, but still.


"But still" what? If you understand the psychological anchoring of toys from our childhood acting like security blankets for a grown adult, what don't you understand? If you discovered that, when she was 5, her mother had been murdered while she watched and her only connection was that she had Elmo in her arms through it all and felt like he got her through it, would that make a difference in your ability to understand?

I'm not saying any adult who likes child-like stuff is emotionally scarred, but that could explain your friend's obsession...

When you think about it, My Little Pony is about love and values. These are ADULT things, too. Just because it's packaged in a pastel pony doesn't mean adults can't learn from it and enjoy it. We don't have to harden as we age or follow in anyone's footsteps. We don't have to "act grown up" all the time. We can make our lives what ever we want them to be. We can have wonder, love, imagination and magic in our lives as adults, too. We don't have to get old, become cynical and end up as sour and angry old curmudgeons.



I don't think the siren song of my little pony is enough to "convert" guys into little sissy boys.


Well-said. I agree.

I've never watched the show, but I'm going to have to check it out now...



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Haha, nice to see that I am not the only one that is sceptical to My Little Ponies, remember watching it when I was young.

Funny inuff I found this game yesterday where you can kill My Little Ponies

www.puffgames.com...
You may need to let off some steam



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Haha, I love this guys site

Makow



Even more disturbing is how that some of them claimed to be sexually attracted to said pony characters. The "bronies" (fans of the show) embrace it by calling it "masculine" and for "manly men".

The show portrays a female-dominated society where the men are seen as weak and inferior. The character "Big Mac," is portrayed as dumb and useless while the female ponies are shown as smart and capable of doing things themselves. The creator of the show, Lauren Faust, left, is a feminist.
Many of the bronies attend to the pony con where they show their love for the characters and buy the toys, etc.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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Funny, but where is the conspiracy in grown men that enjoy My Little Pony?



Left wing conspiracy to feminize men,


I am pretty sure that happened well before My Little Pony came along.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Didn't care for it back then, don't care for it now...
Now if you mess with me because I like Spongebob, we're gonna fight!!!
Don't mess with the Spongeman!!




ETA: I wonder if these Bronie people are the same as furries, THOSE PEOPLE SCARE ME,!!
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
Didn't care for it back then, don't care for it now...
Now if you mess with me because I like Spongebob, we're gonna fight!!!


Spongebob is the greatest thing to watch when not sober.
I literally laugh my face off watching sometimes, not afraid to admit it.

But OP, I completely agree as i've seen it first hand, literally embracing it as if it were truly "manly".
Scares me. But to each his own.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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How exactly does the feminization of American men fit into the liberal agenda?






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