I wouldn't be surprised that these people disappear for good after they spill what they know. Nothing to do with us says the CIA, they weren't in our custody.

If they are that dangerous, you can't just let them go.

i just have something to point out....most of the time dissapearances, tortures, assassinations, etc, etc do happen in countries in the middle east and other parts of the world, many of these countries are part of the UN.....yet, most of these are not even reported and human right agencies do not even bother...yet if there is something the US does, it is immediately covered all over the world....

You know what?....i might sound barbaric to some...but Islamic extremists, or any other extremists that resort to knowingly killing people and sending children strapped on explosives to die for a stupid cause.. are not worth one bit imo.....may they all dissapear from the face of the Earth.

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"You do what you gotta do" and "forgetta bout it"

Thats the problem with uncontroled arrests, nobody knows if they are in jail.

The same happens with the people arrested in Guantanamo, nobody knows if they are guilty or innocent.

They can let the guilty go free and throw the innocents in jail forever that nobody will know.

Originally posted by Muaddib
i just have something to point out....most of the time dissapearances, tortures, assassinations, etc, etc do happen in countries in the middle east and other parts of the world, many of these countries are part of the UN.....yet, most of these are not even reported and human right agencies do not even bother...yet if there is something the US does, it is immediately covered all over the world....
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Which is why we've learned not to do most of the torturing ourselves. We hand them over to our friends and "allies" so that they may do the dirty work and we can keep our hands fairly clean. I've heard that the Israelis and Egyptians can be ruthless.


I had problems with the links that I provided and now I have to be at work lol. I'll post them again later tonight.
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Originally posted by veritas93
Which is why we've learned not to do most of the torturing ourselves. We hand them over to our friends and "allies" so that they may do the dirty work and we can keep our hands fairly clean. I've heard that the Israelis and Egyptians can be ruthless.


I had problems with the links that I provided and now I have to be at work lol. I'll post them again later tonight.
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So you just thought you'd throw that Israel bit in despite the fact that all of the links you provided do not mention Israel and mention only allied US Islamic nations? I saw Egypt mentioned, and Jordan, and Syria, and the Saudis, but funny, no mention of Israel. And, in fact, I'm pretty certain we never send anyone to Israel for interrogation. Sending Muslims to be tortured in Israel wouldn't exactly go over too well in the Islamic world. And we've got a bad enough PR problem there as it is. Israel may torture its own terrorists suspects, and really, if someone has information on a walking bomb that is about to blow up a bunch of kids, I could care less what body parts get ripped off, but they aren't in the business of doing our dirty work.

Kind of odd this business of sending terrorists to Syria though for interrogation seeing as they operate one of the largest terrorist training grounds in the Beqaa valley in occupied Lebannon. What, are they giving them new marching orders or something?

But, alas, Muslims torturing other Muslims is pretty par for the course unfortunately and doesn't raise nearly as many eyebrows or suicide bombers as using Israelis or Lyndie England.

Originally posted by rg73
So you just thought you'd throw that Israel bit in despite the fact that all of the links you provided do not mention Israel and mention only allied US Islamic nations? I saw Egypt mentioned, and Jordan, and Syria, and the Saudis, but funny, no mention of Israel. And, in fact, I'm pretty certain we never send anyone to Israel for interrogation. Sending Muslims to be tortured in Israel wouldn't exactly go over too well in the Islamic world. And we've got a bad enough PR problem there as it is. Israel may torture its own terrorists suspects, and really, if someone has information on a walking bomb that is about to blow up a bunch of kids, I could care less what body parts get ripped off, but they aren't in the business of doing our dirty work.

Kind of odd this business of sending terrorists to Syria though for interrogation seeing as they operate one of the largest terrorist training grounds in the Beqaa valley in occupied Lebannon. What, are they giving them new marching orders or something?

But, alas, Muslims torturing other Muslims is pretty par for the course unfortunately and doesn't raise nearly as many eyebrows or suicide bombers as using Israelis or Lyndie England.

lol, a little sensitive eh? All I said was that I had heard that the Israelis and Egyptians were ruthless as far as torture was concerned lol. That statement had nothing to do with my prior statement about the US shipping it's prisoners to Arab states. I was in a bit of a hurry and didn't really proof read my post. I was talking about torture practices in general, but I certainly could have clarified my statement or at least put a space between the two comments lol. I agree that sending the prisoners to Israel would not only be pointless but politically unwise.

Btw, I wasn't necessarily US or Israel bashing. If you read any of my other posts you'll see that I'm not always opposed to such policies, as they can be useful in certain rare situations.

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