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Topic started on 12-10-2004 @ 08:04 AM by Jemison
The Governement is funding a year long study on chat room surveillance. The possibilty that terrorists are hiding in plain view, in public chat rooms, exchanging information with one another has sparked this study. Monitoring the chatrooms with an individual would be impossible so they will use mathematical models to search for patterns in the chatter. Becuse the chat rooms they are focusing on are public authorities are not violating rites to privacy.



A Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute computer science professor hopes to develop mathematical models that can uncover structure within the scattershot traffic of online public forums.

Trying to monitor the sea of traffic on all the chat channels would be like assigning a police officer to listen in on every conversation on the sidewalk — virtually impossible.

Instead of rummaging through megabytes of messages, RPI professor Bulent Yener will use mathematical models in search of patterns in the chatter. Downloading data from selected chat rooms, Yener will track the times that messages were sent, creating a statistical profile of the traffic.

If, for instance, RatBoi and bowler1 consistently send messages within seconds of each other in a crowded chat room, you could infer that they were speaking to one another amid the "noise" of the chat room.

"For us, the challenge is to be able to determine, without reading the messages, who is talking to whom," Yener said.

In search of "hidden communities," Yener also wants to check messages for certain keywords that could reveal something about what's being discussed in groups.
Security officials know al-Qaida and other terrorist groups use the Internet for everything from propaganda to offering tips on kidnapping. But it's not clear if terrorists rely much on chat rooms for planning and coordination.

Michael Vatis, founding director of the National Infrastructure Protection Center and now a consultant, said he had heard of terrorists using chat rooms, which he said offer some security as long as code phrases are used. Other cybersecurity experts doubted chat rooms' usefulness to terrorists given the other current options, from Web mail to hiding messages on designated Web pages that can only be seen by those who know where to look.


full story:

news.yahoo.com.../ap/20041012/ap_on_hi_te/chat_room_surveillance_3&printer=1

I dont know what to think of this. I have been in chat rooms where there have been people very vocal about agreeing with the terrorists. I have to wonder if these people would be put on a list or monitored based on what they say in chat, though they are obviously not terrorists and are just expressing their opinions.

Jemison


reply posted on 29-11-2004 @ 04:10 PM by worldwatcher
I knew chat rooms were being monitored, but now there confirmation that the CIA will doing some of the monitoring.

more on the initial story in this thread:
Secu rity officials to spy on chat rooms

my problem with this chat room monitoring, if "keywords" are going to be the trigger, is that it doesn't account for "foreign languages"
Will the monitors be able to catch stuff spoken in different languages???
I don't think Al-Qaeda will be discussing their plans in English while in chat rooms. So is this new monitoring really for terrorism or for something more sinister??

btw from the article, looks like the CIA may not be participating in the future or is this just what they want us to believe.




[edit on 11-29-2004 by worldwatcher]
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