I mentioned on p.1 that I heard a news report about Aljazeera footage showing the strikers shooting at police.
I think the relevant footage can be see at here: www.aljazeera.com...
Just click the thumbnail titled South African president launches probe into mine killings
There are many other issues and politics involved now.
Ironically, many Internet sites traditionally associated with the "SA conservative white view" agree that it was a "massacre" (and many of these
people were once conscripted in the police or the army, so their opinion matters).
They feel a particular group of miners were corralled and shot, similar to the findings and argument of my fellow poster here, Another_ Nut.
They go as far as to call it a "turkey shoot" (apparently a technical term).
Then there's much other general opinion.
Most of it is on labor and political issues, with unsure forecasts and validity.
Some call a wage of R4000 a "slave wage".
Others say this is not so, and actually pretty good for unskilled or semi-skilled labor.
But most think for any union to offer and insist on R12 000 was just a deliberate false promise.
Some say mining conditions are bad, but others say platinum is in a gradual decline, and the mines are looking at retrenchments.
Unskilled SA miners are expendable.
The Chinese in Africa bring their own labor from China, even to countries with high unemployment, and that could become a future trend for
What will the unemployed masses in SA and Lesotho do then?
Sit in their rural villages without cash like their ancestors?
Without cellular phones, bedding, clothes and medicines?
Or will they join the masses of unemployed people in urban squatter camps?
By what standard does one say the mines are a curse or blessing?
Who else will employ these people?
By our experience whenever there is violent labor unrest companies leave, and more people sit about unemployed.
Not once has labor violence increased production, or our standing as a productive country.
Well, Julius Malema, a rival of President Zuma, is taking charge and defending the miners in custody.
That makes it political.
At the end of the day, whatever compensations are paid for police actions (or to the fallen and injured police), the hard-pressed taxpayer of SA will
pay for it all.
We will pay - the personal income taxpayer of SA will pay (largely the much maligned tiny white demographic).
The question is, was it orchestrated?
Well, miners from Pondoland (Xhosa speaking) were recruited and this has been an issue in the North-West (Sotho speaking) mines for months.
The ANC are convinced they can impose what they consider "national demographics" on all the provinces, so some provinces have become a dumping ground
for their poor and unemployed Xhosa supporters from the spectacularly mismanaged Eastern Cape.
Initially North West Province locals gang-raped a white women as a protest to "get attention", but the media didn't see this as significant.
This occurred in January 2012 already, long before the burning of the two female security guards.
So some see an element of ethnic (tribal) ANC social engineering behind all this.
Suffice to say that the black police in the mixed group of cops were not shooting at their own tribe.
Other nations and companies like the Chinese will one day come and say: "Stuff you all - we will mine it and bring our own labor".
They already do this in mining and construction in other African countries, and they have little time for local labor shenanigans.
The labor opportunities we have are a blessing, and far from slavery.
ANC historiography taught people that employers are a curse.
So when the former homelands like the Ciskei and Transkei became independent, many of the factories were destroyed in unrest.
But then what?
Yes, then what in a country with de facto 40 percent unemployment?
Nobody comes and forces people to work.
Similarly, nobody forced these strikers to carry weapons - yes they were encouraged or told to leave by the instigators - but they were not forced.
A sad situation for all, but the political opportunists are already visible.
But perhaps this will only be appreciated when the business is all gone.
Probably a lot of different angles and opinions on the tragedy, and also our local anxieties.
However, Aljazeera did show footage of protestors shooting, and the posters who felt it was a massacre also have a lot of support.
More superficially here it is often framed by the media as a case of who shot first, the cops or the protestors?
It was all probably avoidable long before it got to that point.
edit on 21-8-2012 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)