McDonald's Massacre, page 4


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reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 07:24 PM by boncho
reply to post by DAZ21

Ok first off, I don't think you quite understand how it works. Formaldehyde can exist in many different forms, like trioxane for example.

Hahaha, if I was to experiment on a chicken nuggets at work, I think I'd be fired. Even if I tried in secret, we have cctv cameras in every room, so It's impossible.




I don't think you get how it works. You told us of one chemical, that supposedly in situ changes into formaldehyde, which now when I addressed it you claim it could be trioxane.

In chemistry, it is used as a stable, easily handled source of anhydrous formaldehyde.


Trioxane synthesis requires an acidic catalyst from what I gather. (Acidic fryer oil at McD's? ) And still the boiling point is lower than the fryers cooking temperature. So my question now is why would you even mention it?

As I said, I don't think you are a chemist. I'm not either, I reflect back to high school learnings, but some basic stuff is being lost on you.

Which is odd because one might presume you were an authority on the matter.

You are the one that put out the warning of a "McDonald's Massacre" after all....


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 08:22 PM by Evanzsayz
reply to post by DAZ21



Accept licenses agreement? Yeah right, I don't care what it is. You should watch your links.


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 08:54 PM by boncho
reply to post by Pixiefyre



You probably had greater exposure from the Formaldehyde/UREA housing insulation that was widely used in the past. In either case, millions of people continued to live since these times.

I just wish we still had lead paint/gas...

People complained less after being exposed.


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 09:43 PM by sunflowerpower
reply to post by ElOmen



Wow, this poor girl will probably die eating these things. Unfortunately because McDonald's is so easy to attain and the fact that they are everywhere, they are killing more than this young girl. Population control is disguised pretty well on this planet. Every time I see a McDonald's I can't help but imagine how great this world would be if all the McDonald's got demolished in one day ............ahhhhh, it would be wonderful.


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 10:16 PM by antar
reply to post by Pixiefyre



I still remember the smell walking past chemistry classrooms, never went in except to set the frogs free once... lol, hey cutiekitty there in your avie.


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 10:33 PM by elrem48
reply to post by DAZ21



McDonalds chicken nuggets should be banned from human consumption for the mere fact that they are one of the most repulsive, nasty foods ever produced! I know of youngsters that won't come within 50 feet of them!


reply posted on 17-8-2012 @ 11:50 PM by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by connorromanow
reply to
post by DAZ21



ive heard about this before isnt also a compund found in silly putty


I thought McNuggets were made from silly putty.


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 01:04 AM by okyouwin
reply to post by DAZ21



I'm sure this the least of your worries. You probably pick up more toxic stuff than this in your bath. I'm not saying this is insignificant I'm just saying it's so present everywhere. My first thought would be to not eat at McDonalds. i don't usually so it's not a big deal for me. Other people should give it a thought though .


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 02:25 AM by connorromanow
reply to post by AwakeinNM



That's something my friend told me every kind of meat had been ruined for her except chicken nuggets, lucky she dosnt know about this



reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 02:55 AM by Pixiefyre
reply to post by boncho



Yeah and then add the previously mentioned.....I went on to spend 22 years working in the chemical industry as a lab tech.


Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Pixiefyre



I still remember the smell walking past chemistry classrooms, never went in except to set the frogs free once... lol, hey cutiekitty there in your avie.


When I was in school the specimens had to be preserved for 7 years before we could work on them.....so setting the frogs free would be like......

*****SPLAT-THUNK*****

Thanks re my kitty...perfect to balance those times when I get overly serious


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 06:09 AM by openminded2011
Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
reply to
post by DAZ21



This might be true or not, I wasn't there, but it's all over the internet along with chicken beaks and feet. Allegedly, McDonald's bought their "beef" from a company called 100% Pure Beef Inc., so that the advertisements could legally claim that McD's used 100% Pure Beef...LOL. What they didn't tell you is 100% Pure Beef Inc. does not use 100% pure beef or the little bit about the allowable level of cysts (malignant or benign) and other questionable materials (along with all the chemicals) in the stuff that they allege to being hamburger. Or the way this junk is processed, you know the chewing up and almost liquefying, spraying down with ammonia and then adding in artificial flavoring. Mmmm Mmmm good!

If you don't see it grow and see it chopped up, you never know what you're getting because you sure can't trust the government, their agencies or any corporation.

Cheers - Dave



Many years ago I worked with a guy who had claimed to have worked in a slaugherhouse that contracted out to Mcdonalds. He told me that when they say "100 percent beef" they mean it because they literally grind the whole cow up into a meat paste. Disturbing when you consider that it is asserted that mad cow disease does not come from eating cuts like sirloin, but comes from eating ground meat containing the brain and spinal cords of cattle,
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reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 07:15 AM by antar
reply to post by Pixiefyre



I know I was told to take a break recently, lol, usually ATS "IS" my break! But seriously I could look at your avie for several minutes and it just gives me a peaceful feeling. Some cats are just so special, its like they are from another dimension. Yours looks so smart and sassy.

On topic, it is a shame, I actually like the chicken nuggets, but have not trusted Mcdonalds for over 10 years now and that picture that was circulating a while back of the pink goo they are made from just sickened me.

It is always good to have further validation to help keep me on the straight and narrow.


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 08:23 AM by LanceCorvette
Originally posted by DAZ21
reply to
post by landocal



Not specifically, the company I work for dabbles in many products. This formulation is for windscreen rain repellent.
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Not saying the product at issue is not dangerous, but you should know (and should have disclosed) that products are "dangerous" only when taken with a dangerous "dose" - called dose/response.

You could ingest a drop of bleach every day for your entire life and have no ill effects. But if you drink 40 ounces of it you would certainly get sick from it.

Chemotherapy, great example, of dose/response. Give the right dose, it cures cancer. Give too much, it kills you.

Even water can be dangerous, if you drink too much of it.

So, what's the dangerous dose for this product?
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reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 03:38 PM by greeneyedleo





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reply posted on 19-8-2012 @ 06:50 AM by DAZ21
Originally posted by boncho
reply to
post by DAZ21

Ok first off, I don't think you quite understand how it works. Formaldehyde can exist in many different forms, like trioxane for example.

Hahaha, if I was to experiment on a chicken nuggets at work, I think I'd be fired. Even if I tried in secret, we have cctv cameras in every room, so It's impossible.




I don't think you get how it works. You told us of one chemical, that supposedly in situ changes into formaldehyde, which now when I addressed it you claim it could be trioxane.

In chemistry, it is used as a stable, easily handled source of anhydrous formaldehyde.


Trioxane synthesis requires an acidic catalyst from what I gather. (Acidic fryer oil at McD's? ) And still the boiling point is lower than the fryers cooking temperature. So my question now is why would you even mention it?

As I said, I don't think you are a chemist. I'm not either, I reflect back to high school learnings, but some basic stuff is being lost on you.

Which is odd because one might presume you were an authority on the matter.

You are the one that put out the warning of a "McDonald's Massacre" after all....


Ok Boncho, It's obvious you think I'm fabricating all of this up.

One. I picked a random different form of Formaldehyde, just to show you that it exists in other forms. Paraformaldehyde, or Methanediol try that one.

Two. Here's a link to a pdf file that shows the correlation of temperature vs. PDMS breakdown into Formaldehyde. So I'm not making this up for fun.

Temperature Vs. Formaldehyde Correlation

Finally Three. It doesn't matter whether It's in the food in small amounts. The question you should be asking is, what the Hell is it doing in food anyway? As someone posted above, you can drink a drop of bleach a day with no ill effects. But would you? These chemicals are used to cheapen the products, and increase profit.

Also yes having a large amount in one sitting of anything, if It's too much, will kill you. But I don't want a small amount of PDMS in my food or Formaldehyde, regardless of how small the amount is, because we simply don't know the true damage it is doing to our bodies over decades of consumption.

Hopefully this will put an end to any debunkers. I think I covered all of my bases, what say you Boncho?
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